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Re: Respectful Offers & Responses



John and other radsafer.



I can't explain the underlying mechanisms. That was Trivedi's area of

expertise and he died of a heart attack last month. I recommend you look at

Sarah Darby's paper (BMJ; 2003: Vol. 236; pp 256-257)and the references

there for an explanation. the mechanisms.



_______________________

John R Johnson, PhD

idias@interchange.ubc.ca







----- Original Message -----

From: "John Jacobus" <crispy_bird@yahoo.com>

To: "John Johnson" <idias@interchange.ubc.ca>; "John Wong"

<Wong@attorney.zzn.com>; <garyi@trinityphysics.com>; "Radsafe Listserver"

<radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu>

Cc: "Philippe Duport (UO)" <pduport@uottawa.ca>; "Slavi Vlahovich"

<Slavica_Vlahovich@hc-sc.gc.ca>; "R. William Field" <bill-field@UIOWA.EDU>

Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 2:56 PM

Subject: Re: Respectful Offers & Responses





> You will have to explain the underlying mechanisms to

> me.  I can understand the associated risks from high

> dose teletherapy, but is there a low dose, dose risk?

> What level of doses are you talking about?

>

> --- John Johnson <idias@interchange.ubc.ca> wrote:

> > John, Gary and other Radsafers

> >

> > It has been recognized for some years that radiation

> > can result in cardiovascular diseases, and since

> > radon will result in elevated doses to the cells at

> > risk, we think it will also. The abstract of our

> > presentation at the CRPA AM later this month is

> > "imported" below.

> > ******

> >

> >   Can Radon Accelerate Cardiovascular Diseases among

> > Workers

> >                    and Exposed Population?

> >        J. R. Johnson1), A. Trivedi 2) and P. Duport

> > 3)

> >         1) IDIAS, Vancouver, British Columbia;

> > Canada

> >   2) Radiation Biology and Health Physics Branch,

> > AECL, Chalk River, Canada

> >   3) International Centre for Low Dose Radiation

> > Research, University of Ottawa, Ottawa,

> >                             Canada

> >

> >   Cardiovascular diseases are reported as the cause

> > of morbidity and mortality among those

> >   exposed to (high) therapeutic doses of radiation,

> > A-bomb explosions, accidental

> >   (Chernobyl liquidators) and occupational levels of

> > radiation. Radiation can be considered

> >   as one of many risk factors for cardiovascular

> > diseases. As such, it may be necessary to

> >   reduce not only other risk factors as far as

> > possible, but also to minimize exposures to

> >   radiation to further reduce the burden of

> > cardiovascular diseases in the population. This

> >   presentation will review relevant information on

> > radiation-induced cardiovascular diseases

> >   including that from radon in uranium miners and in

> > Newfoundland's fluorspar miners.

> >   Although standardized mortality ratio (SMR) values

> > for cardiovascular diseases are

> >   consistently less than one in uranium miner

> > cohorts, a trend for increased cardiovascular

> >   risk with increasing exposures was observed in the

> > Newfoundland fluorspar miner cohort.

> >   We have calculated the doses to blood and coronary

> > artery wall from radon and progeny,

> >   and have concluded radon exposure may indeed

> > increase the incidence of cardiovascular

> >   diseases and that a thorough investigation of that

> > risk is justified, even at environmental

> >   and occupational levels.

> >

> > ****

> >

> > John

> > _______________________

> > John R Johnson, PhD

> > idias@interchange.ubc.ca

> >

> >

> >   ----- Original Message -----

> >   From: John Wong

> >   To: garyi@trinityphysics.com ;

> > radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu

> >   Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 8:28 AM

> >   Subject: Respectful Offers & Responses

> >

> >

> >       Gary,

> >

> >       I apologize for the large font.  I am retired

> > and nearly blind.

> >

> >       Thank-you to everyone who answered my request

> > regarding information

> >       about the health risks of radon.  Am I correct

> > in understanding that

> >       radon exposure may also be related to heart

> > disease?

> >

> >       REGARDING THE REWARD OFFER -

> >

> >       I responded regarding the reward offer because

> > I never saw such a

> >       clear cut breach of an offer. Dr. Cohen made

> > an offer that if someone

> >       published a suggested cause, they would be

> > paid.  My post was not

> >       related to science, but addressed a just

> > outcome.  It was in response

> >       to an obvious breach of contract.  I would

> > respectfully ask Dr. Cohen

> >       not to make future offers like this. If he did

> > not make offers like

> >       this, these postings would never had been made

> > regarding this topic.

> >

> >

> >

> >       ---- Begin Original Message ----

> >

> >       From: garyi@trinityphysics.com

> >       Sent: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 17:16:01 -0500

> >       To: "John Wong" <Wong@attorney.zzn.com>,

> > radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu

> >       Subject: Re: Offers and Answers

> >

> >       ----------------------------------------------

> >

> >       Please turn off the giant blue font.

> >

> >       -Gary Isenhower

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >       Get your Free E-mail at

> > http://attorney.zzn.com

> >

> >

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>

> =====

> -- John

> John Jacobus, MS

> Certified Health Physicist

> e-mail:  crispy_bird@yahoo.com

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