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Confounders and Coincidences - Numerical Examples
Dr. Cohen,
Your response
"If there is a problem, please give me a concrete numerical example (made-up
is fine)."
confirms our (Field, R.W., Smith, B.J., and Lynch, C.F.) view we wrote in
Cohen’s Paradox, Health Physics 77(3): 328-329,1999.
A quote from that letter published in the Health Physics Journal states,
"Cohen has not accepted the fact that it may be impossible to explain Cohen's
Paradox in definitive analytical terms with his existing data because it is
not always possible to identify empirical sources of ecologic bias from
aggregate (ecologic) data alone (Field et al. 1998a)."
I don't know if you recall, but subsequently I contacted you directly and
others discussed it on the list
http://www.vanderbilt.edu/radsafe/0201/msg00923.html
that you may be able to explain your findings if you wanted to improve your
analyses by following the examples of papers such as:
Journal of the Royal Statistical Society: Series A (Statistics in Society)
Volume 164 Issue 1 Page 141 - 2001
Overcoming biases and misconceptions in ecological studies
Katherine A. Guthrie1 & Lianne Sheppard 1
The aggregate data study design provides an alternative group level analysis
to ecological studies in the estimation of individual level health risks. An
aggregate model is derived by aggregating a plausible individual level
relative rate model within groups, such that population-based disease rates
are modelled as functions of individual level covariate data. We apply an
aggregate data method to a series of fictitious examples from a review paper
by Greenland and Robins which illustrated the problems that can arise when
using the results of ecological studies to make inference about individual
health risks. We use simulated data based on their examples to demonstrate
that the aggregate data approach can address many of the sources of bias that
are inherent in typical ecological analyses, even though the limited between-
region covariate variation in these examples reduces the efficiency of the
aggregate study. The aggregate method has the potential to estimate exposure
effects of interest in the presence of non-linearity, confounding at
individual and group levels, effect modification, classical measurement error
in the exposure and non-differential misclassification in the confounder.
Have you followed up on that suggestion?
Also of interest in the same issue:
Journal of the Royal Statistical Society: Series A (Statistics in Society)
Volume 164 Issue 1 Page 205 - 2001
A parallel analysis of individual and ecological data on residential radon and
lung cancer in south-west England
Sarah Darby1, Harz Deo1, Richard Doll1 & Elise Whitley2
Parallel individual and ecological analyses of data on residential radon have
been performed using information on cases of lung cancer and population
controls from a recent study in south-west England. For the individual
analysis the overall results indicated that the relative risk of lung cancer
at 100 Bq m3 compared with at 0 Bq m3 was 1.12 (95% confidence interval (0.99,
1.27)) after adjusting for age, sex, smoking, county of residence and social
class. In the ecological analysis substantial bias in the estimated effect of
radon was present for one of the two counties involved unless an additional
variable, urban-rural status, was included in the model, although this
variable was not an important confounder in the individual level analysis.
Most of the methods that have been recommended for overcoming the limitations
of ecological studies would not in practice have proved useful in identifying
this variable as an appreciable source of bias.
Regards,
Bill Field
epirad@mchsi.com
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> On Thu, 8 May 2003 epirad@mchsi.com wrote:
>
> >
> > Yes, using ecologic data to control confounding is helpful sometimes. In
> > fact, it does help especially if there are not large inter and intra county
> > non linear effects. However, we know without question that these non
linear
> > sources of confounding and effect modification exist in Dr. Cohen's data.
>
> --If there is a problem, please give me a concrete numerical
> example (made-up is fine).
>
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