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Re: respiratory tract dose



Don...I so agree....I have about had it too!!!!



Mitchell W. Davis, RRPT

Health Physicist

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----- Original Message -----

From: "Mercado, Don" <don.mercado@lmco.com>

To: "'William V Lipton'" <liptonw@DTEENERGY.COM>; "Kevin Creed"

<creed@humboldt.edu>

Cc: <radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu>; "Luke George" <tlg2@humboldt.edu>

Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 10:38 AM

Subject: RE: respiratory tract dose





> Unbelievable!!!

>

> You all (some of you) are a piece of work! Kevin is a good, good friend of

> mine, and a competent, consummate professional. He smart enough to knows

> when he needs help and is not ashamed to ask for it. He has my absolute

> respect. I've worked side by side with him here at Lockheed (he used to

work

> here) for years, and on this particular problem. It was *me* who suggested

> that he take it to Radsafe (he'd never heard of it) bec he was in a time

> crunch. Phone calls and faxes between us weren't making it and I *USED* to

> have a lot of respect for what goes on here. I also didn't have the NCRP

> documents he needed. If he gets them, I'll keep helping him. He wasn't

> asking you to do the work for him, just supply the formulas and references

> to him and he'd do the work! Are you so unsure of your own skills and

> knowledge that you can't even do that????

>

> I am TOTALLY embarrassed and ashamed by y'all's responses. I expected much

> more of you (apparently too much.) It will be a cold dark day before I

> recommend this board again. Something the Dixie Chicks said about the

> President applies here about now...

>

> Kevin, buddy, I am truly sorry for the abuse you've gotten. I had no idea

> this would happen. I apologize for recommending this board.

>

> Sheesh!

>

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: William V Lipton [SMTP:liptonw@DTEENERGY.COM]

> > Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 9:56 AM

> > To: Kevin Creed

> > Cc: radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu; Luke George

> > Subject: Re: respiratory tract dose

> >

> > At the risk of seeming more a "heel" than a "kind sole" [sic], it seems

> > that you

> > should be hiring a qualified consultant for this, and in support of all

> > those RSO

> > responsibilities that are beyond your qualifications.

> >

> > If you are a member of the Health Physics Society, I point out that the

> > HPS code of

> > ethics includes the statement, "Each member shall be a judge of his/her

> > competence and

> > will not undertake any assignment beyond his/her abilities."  I assume

> > that the AIHA

> > has a similar code of ethics.

> >

> > If I were faced with an IH issue, I would consult the CIH whom we have

on

> > staff.  I

> > would caution any "kind sole" who is considering responding to this,

that

> > it's one

> > thing having a general discussion or steering a qualified person to an

> > overlooked

> > reference.  It's quite another to be performing calculations for a

> > licensing document

> > that the NRC will be using to determine whether this facility and its

> > personnel can

> > safely handle the requested radioactive materials.

> >

> > The opinions expressed are strictly mine.

> > It's not about dose, it's about trust.

> > Curies forever.

> >

> > Bill Lipton

> > liptonw@dteenergy.com

> >

> > Kevin Creed wrote:

> >

> > > Help, I'm new to Radsafe and an IH.   I am also the RSO and must work

> > out a

> > > dose estimation for a license amendment.  The hypothetical scenario is

> > > inhalation of 3.75 microcuries of Scandium 46 (1120.5 KeV) adsorbed

onto

> > > airborne smoke particles.  I have checked out Cember's Intro to Health

> > > Physics (1st ed.) and read Chapter 11, Internal Rad' Protection.  The

> > book

> > > refers to ICRP's two compartment lung model for a similar problem but

> > does

> > > not supply the equation(s).  I have put in interlibrary loan requests

> > for

> > > the specific Health Physics issues which address this but I don't know

> > if I

> > > will receive them in time.

> > >         Would one of you kind soles please provide me with the

necessary

> > equations

> > > and any constants which I may need?   I would like to work out the

> > problem

> > > myself to further my rad' knowledge.  My e-mail

> > > is:  creed@humboldt.edu,   fax  (707) 826-5703,  phone  (707)

826-3356.

> > > Thank you in advance.

> > >

> > > Kevin Creed

> > > R. Kevin Creed

> > > Director/RSO

> > > Environmental Health & Safety

> > > Humboldt State University

> > >

> > >

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