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RE: respiratory tract dose



Unbelievable!!!



You all (some of you) are a piece of work! Kevin is a good, good friend of

mine, and a competent, consummate professional. He smart enough to knows

when he needs help and is not ashamed to ask for it. He has my absolute

respect. I've worked side by side with him here at Lockheed (he used to work

here) for years, and on this particular problem. It was *me* who suggested

that he take it to Radsafe (he'd never heard of it) bec he was in a time

crunch. Phone calls and faxes between us weren't making it and I *USED* to

have a lot of respect for what goes on here. I also didn't have the NCRP

documents he needed. If he gets them, I'll keep helping him. He wasn't

asking you to do the work for him, just supply the formulas and references

to him and he'd do the work! Are you so unsure of your own skills and

knowledge that you can't even do that????



I am TOTALLY embarrassed and ashamed by y'all's responses. I expected much

more of you (apparently too much.) It will be a cold dark day before I

recommend this board again. Something the Dixie Chicks said about the

President applies here about now...



Kevin, buddy, I am truly sorry for the abuse you've gotten. I had no idea

this would happen. I apologize for recommending this board.



Sheesh! 



> -----Original Message-----

> From:	William V Lipton [SMTP:liptonw@DTEENERGY.COM]

> Sent:	Tuesday, May 13, 2003 9:56 AM

> To:	Kevin Creed

> Cc:	radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu; Luke George

> Subject:	Re: respiratory tract dose

> 

> At the risk of seeming more a "heel" than a "kind sole" [sic], it seems

> that you

> should be hiring a qualified consultant for this, and in support of all

> those RSO

> responsibilities that are beyond your qualifications.

> 

> If you are a member of the Health Physics Society, I point out that the

> HPS code of

> ethics includes the statement, "Each member shall be a judge of his/her

> competence and

> will not undertake any assignment beyond his/her abilities."  I assume

> that the AIHA

> has a similar code of ethics.

> 

> If I were faced with an IH issue, I would consult the CIH whom we have on

> staff.  I

> would caution any "kind sole" who is considering responding to this, that

> it's one

> thing having a general discussion or steering a qualified person to an

> overlooked

> reference.  It's quite another to be performing calculations for a

> licensing document

> that the NRC will be using to determine whether this facility and its

> personnel can

> safely handle the requested radioactive materials.

> 

> The opinions expressed are strictly mine.

> It's not about dose, it's about trust.

> Curies forever.

> 

> Bill Lipton

> liptonw@dteenergy.com

> 

> Kevin Creed wrote:

> 

> > Help, I'm new to Radsafe and an IH.   I am also the RSO and must work

> out a

> > dose estimation for a license amendment.  The hypothetical scenario is

> > inhalation of 3.75 microcuries of Scandium 46 (1120.5 KeV) adsorbed onto

> > airborne smoke particles.  I have checked out Cember's Intro to Health

> > Physics (1st ed.) and read Chapter 11, Internal Rad' Protection.  The

> book

> > refers to ICRP's two compartment lung model for a similar problem but

> does

> > not supply the equation(s).  I have put in interlibrary loan requests

> for

> > the specific Health Physics issues which address this but I don't know

> if I

> > will receive them in time.

> >         Would one of you kind soles please provide me with the necessary

> equations

> > and any constants which I may need?   I would like to work out the

> problem

> > myself to further my rad' knowledge.  My e-mail

> > is:  creed@humboldt.edu,   fax  (707) 826-5703,  phone  (707) 826-3356.

> > Thank you in advance.

> >

> > Kevin Creed

> > R. Kevin Creed

> > Director/RSO

> > Environmental Health & Safety

> > Humboldt State University

> >

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