Re: Get your tickets now!

[Ted, de, Castro]

not ALL radsafers!



"George J. Vargo" wrote:

> 

> Please, for God's sake, please take this discussion off RADSAFE!  We are so

> tired and weary that I don't care if I EVER hear of radon again.  Bernie is

> clueless as exhibited by his numerous postings in which he is impervious to

> the answering the issue at hand in favor of a previously posted web site

> position. This has become a Rod Sterling vision of hell, an endless

> repetition of mantra and personal theology (e.g., #n of my 'z on item 'y on

> my entrenched-belief web site.)  Please, PLEASE do not bait him with further

> queries, brickbats, comments or responses!  If you ignore him and keep quiet

> he will eventually go away.

> 

> I believe I speak for the majority of RadSafe subscribers that we are all

> sick and tired of the circular banter.

> 

> Bernie, PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND.  Please just accept that we all agree to

> disagree and leave us in peace.

> 

> Please, for the sake of the children!

> 

> George J. Vargo, Ph.D., CHP

> vargo@physicist.net

> 610-925-1954

> 610-925-5545 (fax)

> 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: owner-radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu

> [mailto:owner-radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu] On Behalf Of Hart, Tim P GS

> (RASO)

> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 4:40 PM

> To: 'maury'; Frank Scarano II; 'BERNARD L COHEN'; 'Gary Howard'; 'Radiation

> Safety'

> Subject: RE: Get your tickets now!

> 

> While the tickets have run out I am willing to start a pool as to the date

> and time of the last volley in this insane war of words.  Squares will sell

> for a very reasonable $1000 each.  The winner will receive 50% of the

> profits.  25% of the profits will be given to fund Mr. Cohen's reward.  And

> the rest will be divided between any members of RADSAFE that did not

> participate in the argument and did not inscribe in frustration of having to

> delete all of the useless e-mails.

> 

> Please let this topic die or take the conversation off line.

> 

> Tim Hart

> Radiation Protection Manager

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> "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him

> absolutely no good." - Samuel Johnson

> 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: maury [mailto:maury@webtexas.com]

> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 4:24 PM

> To: Frank Scarano II

> Cc: 'BERNARD L COHEN'; 'Gary Howard'; 'Radiation Safety'

> Subject: Re: Get your tickets now!

> 

> Hi Frank,

> I'm genuinely sorry but the circus has become so popular that the regular

> tickets have sold out. If we can expand the show with more participants

> (ooohhhh nooooo, Mr. Bill, noooooooo) SRO tickets are being considered.

> Cheers,

> Maury Siskel       maury@webtexas.com

> PS Volunteer scorekeepers are needed. Only 6 mos. to go to the awards

> ceremony. Beat the crowds; get your ankle biting done early this year.

> 

> PPS Applications for new entertainment issues are now being considered. The

> only requirement is that your submission must not involve Dr. Cohen -- his

> backlog is already overloaded. In fact, his frontlog is also overloaded. It

> is amazing how well he bears up under all of this ....

> ======================= Frank Scarano II wrote:

> 

> > Gees

> >

> >  Where do you get your tickets from?

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: owner-radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu

> > [mailto:owner-radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu] On Behalf Of BERNARD L

> > COHEN

> > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 10:58 AM

> > To: Gary Howard

> > Cc: Radiation Safety

> > Subject: Re: Get your tickets now!

> >

> > On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Gary Howard wrote:

> >

> >   Dr. Cohen has asked others for explanations why his results

> > > do not indicate the demise of the LNT.  Don't ask if you don't want

> > > to receive!

> >

> >         --I asked for explanations in terms of not implausible,

> > concrete, hypothetical examples. None has been offered

> >

> > > Field offered reviewers, Cohen rejected them in favor of people who

> > > could care less about epidemiology.

> >

> >         --My work is not conventional epidemiology, which is intended

> > to determine dose-response relationships. My work should be judged by

> > people who know how to judge a new and novel approach to solving a

> > scientific problem, and willing to follow my tightly reasoned

> > justification while seeking holes in it. Some epidemiologists (and

> > Mossman) view my work as a determination of the dose-response

> > relationship, which I have always

> pointed

> > out that it is not. I see no indication that they understand my

> > tightly reasoned justification, or have even tried to understand it.

> > Have you

> tried?

> > If so, can you point out a hole in it?

> >

> >  Field offered a substative way to

> > > find the cause of his discrepancy. Cohen has denied he understands

> > > what

> > Field is talking about.  This is why we are getting nowhere.

> >

> >         --I could understand if he made up a concrete hypothetical

> > example. Without it, I cannot evaluate plausibility, so the

> 

> --  snipped  ----------

> 

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