Re: Burden of Proof (Was: Detailed evidence fails to support man-made climate change)

["Howard Long" <hflong@pacbell.net>]

More CO2 comes into the USA on prevailing winds (higher levels on the west

coast) than leaves it (lower levels on the east coast). Our trees absorb

more CO2 than our cars produce. So we should be getting money from Europe if

CO2 credits are used with Kyoto principles. That should stop European

Greens - who are also pushing to dismantle German nuclear power plants.



Howard Long



----- Original Message ----- 

From: "Kai Kaletsch" <eic@shaw.ca>

To: "maury" <maury@webtexas.com>; "Radiation Safety"

<radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu>

Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 8:40 AM

Subject: Burden of Proof (Was: Detailed evidence fails to support man-made

climate change)





When we propose a new uranium mine, we look at the potential impacts on the

environment and people. We quantify the impact and describe our models so

that anyone can shoot holes in them. Then the government decides if we have

adequately modeled the impacts and if the economic benefits are worth it.



In the case of CO2, we know that it has certain physical properties which

could trap heat. Here is an industry that wants to increase the amount of

CO2 in the atmosphere. Clearly that industry must show that what they are

proposing is safe. To do that they have to run their own models and come up

with a quantitative prediction of the impact of their activities, including

error bars.



It is not enough to say that there is a flaw in someone else's model.



Kai



----- Original Message ----- 

From: "maury" <maury@webtexas.com>

To: "Radiation Safety" <radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu>; "Mailing List for Risk

Professionals" <riskanal@lyris.pnl.gov>

Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 11:47 PM

Subject: Detailed evidence fails to support man-made climate change





> Recognizing the controversial nature for some; and granting perhaps

> tangential relevance to radiation safety and to risk analysis; I have

> bitten off both of my typing fingers and present only the links and the

> barest summary of Sen. Inhofe's excellent, detailed stake driven into

> the heart of anthropogenic global climate change ....

> Cheers,

> Maury  maury@webtexas.com

> _________

> PP=PPP

> =============================

> The press release may be seen at:

> http://inhofe.senate.gov/preleases.htm

>

> The entire presentation is at:

> http://inhofe.senate.gov/floorspeeches.htm

>

>

> Monday, July 28, 2003

>

> INHOFE DELIVERS MAJOR SPEECH ON THE SCIENCE OF CLIMATE CHANGE

> "Catastrophic global warming alarmism not based on objective science"

>

> Washington, D.C.-Sen. James Inhofe (R-Okla.), chairman of

> the Committee on Environment and Public Works, delivered a comprehensive

> speech on the science of climate change today,

> concluding that, based on the best, most objective science available,

> predictions of catastrophic global warming are

> baseless and should be rejected.

>

>  The following are excerpts from today's press release:

>

>  · "Much of the debate over global warming is predicated on fear, rather

> than science."

>

> · "I have offered compelling evidence that catastrophic global warming

> is a hoax. That conclusion is supported by the painstaking work of the

> nation's top climate scientists."

>

> "What have scientists concluded? The Kyoto Protocol has no environmental

> benefits; natural variability, not fossil fuel emissions, is the

> overwhelming factor influencing climate change;

> satellite data, confirmed by NOAA balloon measurements,

> confirms that no meaningful warming has occurred over the last century;

> and climate models predicting dramatic temperature increases over the

> next 100 years are flawed and highly imperfect."

>

>

>

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