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AW: Bush and Science



I cannot see any relation to any radiation safety issue in your posting, but

it contains a lot of disgusting political propaganda, which without doubt

not only would irritate non-US-citizens, but I hope also more than 50% of

US-Americans. I hope that the moderator will cut off any similar messages. I

believe that this list is not intended to spread internal US-propaganda or

your pride of being a member of what board so ever and having questioned

some "celebrities". You even violate the most basical laws of logic, when

you claim that the Kyoto Protocol would You have in the past posted quite a

few opinions, which showed that you had a very severe lack of background

education and knowledge on radiation issues. So would you please refrain

from compensating your lack of scientific knowledge by political propaganda.



Contrary to the originally posted opinion of John Jacobus (whose postings I

rally enjoy) I believe that his posting was really radiation related,

because the links he provided had a lot to do with nuclear energy and

radiation. Your's has no connection.



Your comment on global warming violates all rules of logic. Reducing

CO2-emitting energy production would stimulate nuclear energy.



I think, this is enough. I intend to ignore your postings in the future.



Best regards,



Franz

















-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----

Von: owner-radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu

[mailto:owner-radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu]Im Auftrag von Howard Long

Gesendet: Sonntag, 10. August 2003 09:06

An: John Jacobus; RADSAFE

Betreff: Re: Bush and Science





John,

Bush is a blessing to scientists. This IS a radiation safety issue.



I have, as a Board Member of Doctors for Disaster Preparedness, critically

questioned experts in three of the areas listed by Waxman, (a government

expansionist). I find Bush policy generally sound science.

Radsafe IS directly concerned with these:



1, Missile Defense

A newly improved Patriot barely stopped an improved Scud from wiping out the

Quatar command center - and the general staff that then conducted a war with

the least loss of civilian life in history (especially compared with the

dire predictions of Waxman). That improvement would not likely have been

available, had the US Supreme Court allowed the Fla Supreme Court to make ex

post facto law about ballots. Boost phase missile stoppers will soon protect

us in ways the Clinton-Gore regime had blocked. That is urgent with N Korea

having NUCLEAR weapons. Teller and Lowell Wood ( LLNL developer of Brilliant

Pebbles) are among those we quizzed about missle defense at several

meetings.  Bush is credible here, critics not.



2, Global Warming

Bush's Kyoto stance agrees with 17,000 scientists www.oism.org/pproject

Again, Bush is credible, critics not. With Kyoto, there would be little

money for new reactors, fewer fossile fuel generators and a lower stanrd of

living from less energy. Besides, there is more CO2 coming into the USA from

the west than going out to the east! (Europe should pay us!). With Bush, we

should expect more NUCLEAR generators started than with Gore or Hillary,

wouldn't you agree?..



3, Workplace Regulation

Repetitive injury, like obesity, is largely personal responsibility. I treat

it daily. Bush removal of some regulation just made less lawyer fodder.

Three physiotherapy offices told me last year that over 90% of their

referals involve lawyers.The cost of

that drives businesses (including NUCLEAR) out of California - until the

Terminator cleans house of politicians like Waxman.



I find Bush much closer to science than was his predecessor - or is the

misinformation you perpetuate below.



Howard Long





----- Original Message -----

From: "John Jacobus" <crispy_bird@YAHOO.COM>

To: "RADSAFE" <radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu>

Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 6:37 AM

Subject: Science and government policy





I would be remiss in not posting this article.

However, I would suggest that futher discussions

should be held off line as it is really not a

radiation safety issue.



The original can be found at

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A31318-2003Aug7.html



The Web site listing administration bias is at

http://www.house.gov/reform/min/politicsandscience/.



I believe that is important to consider all side of an

issue and make up your own mind.

-----------------







Bush Misuses Science, Report Says



 By Rick Weiss



  The Bush administration has repeatedly

mischaracterized scientific

facts to bolster its political agenda in areas ranging

from abstinence

education and condom use to missile defense, according

to a detailed

report released yesterday by Rep. Henry A. Waxman

(D-Calif.).



 The White House quickly dismissed the report as

partisan sniping.



 The 40-page document, "Politics and Science in the

Bush

Administration," was compiled by the minority staff of

the House Government Reform

Committee's special investigations division. It marks

the launch of a new

effort by Waxman and others in Congress to highlight

simmering anger

among scientists and others who believe that President

Bush -- much more

than his predecessors -- has been spiking science with

politics to

justify conservative policies in areas such as

reproductive rights, embryo

research, energy policy and environmental health.



 "The Administration's political interference with

science has led to

misleading statements by the President, inaccurate

responses to

Congress, altered web sites, suppressed agency

reports, erroneous international

communications, and the gagging of scientists,"

according to the

report, posted yesterday at

www.politicsandscience.org. "The subjects

involved span a broad range, but they share a common

attribute: the

beneficiaries of the scientific distortions are

important supporters of the

President, including social conservatives and powerful

industry groups."



 White House spokesman Adam Levine said it would take

time for the

administration to address the specifics of the report.

However, he said,

"I'm hard-pressed to believe anyone would consider

Congressman Waxman an

objective arbiter of scientific fact."



 Several prestigious scientific journals have

editorialized about the

Bush administration's dealings in science in recent

months, including

Science, Nature and the New England Journal of

Medicine.



 An editor at Science, for example, recently said in

print that the

administration was injecting politics into arenas of

science "once immune

to this kind of manipulation."



 And the editors of  the  Lancet noted "growing

evidence of explicit

vetting of appointees to influential [scientific]

panels on the basis of

their political or religious opinions" and warned

against "any further

right-wing incursions" on those panels.



 The General Accounting Office has been investigating

such allegations

since some in Congress asked the agency to do so in

September, but it

has not released any findings.



 Among the purported abuses documented in the report:



 .  "Performance measures" used to determine the

effectiveness of

federally funded "abstinence only" sex education

programs were altered by

the administration in ways that made it easier to say

the programs were

effective. And information about how to use a condom

-- along with

scientific data showing that sex education does not

lead to earlier or

increased sexual activity in young people -- was

removed from a Centers for

Disease Control and Prevention Web site.



 . In testimony before Congress, Interior Secretary

Gale A. Norton

omitted -- and in at least one case misstated --

federal scientists'

findings that Arctic oil drilling could harm wildlife.



 . The administration altered a National Cancer

Institute Web site in a

way that wrongly implied there was good evidence

linking abortions to

breast cancer.



 . The Education Department circulated a memo

instructing employees to

remove materials from the department's Web site not

"consistent with

the Administration's philosophy," prompting complaints

about censorship

from national educational organizations.



 . Bush has appointed to key scientific advisory

committees numerous

people with political, rather than scientific,

credentials. For example,

his appointee  to a presidential AIDS advisory

committee,  marketing

consultant Jerry Thacker,  has described homosexuality

as a "deathstyle"

and referred to AIDS as the "gay plague."



 A spokesman for Waxman said the report will be

updated on the Web as

new examples arise.





© 2003 The Washington Post Company

-------------------



=====

-- John

John Jacobus, MS

Certified Health Physicist

e-mail:  crispy_bird@yahoo.com



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