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Re: Looking for vendor-polyethylene pig for neutron source



Sorry, Bill.

you have lost me.....



The guy is looking for shielding for a Cf source, not a neutron generator 

(fun little devices used pretty extensively in the oil E&P business for 

downhole logging applications.....)

Doug



At 02:24 PM 11/11/2003 -0500, William V Lipton wrote:

>What you want is a "neutron howitzer. There are two vendors for this listed in

>the "Nuclear News Buyers Guide 2003."

>

>J. L. Shepherd & Associates:  818-898-2361, www.jlshepherd.com

>

>Thermo MF Physics:  719-598-9549, www.thermomfphysics.com

>

>The opinions expressed are strictly mine.

>It's not about dose, it's about trust.

>Curies forever.

>

>Bill Lipton

>liptonw@dteenergy.com

>

>

>Doug Aitken wrote:

>

> > At 09:21 AM 11/11/2003 +0200, you wrote:

> > >Bobby,

> > >Traditionally a sturdy drum filled with wax (optional borax added) was

> > >often used with a source-sized hole down the middle to store a neutron

> > >source. If that is considered a fire hazard, water (again with borax

> > >optional) could be considered.  If most of the (thermalized)neutrons are

> > >captured in boron, the gamma energy is about 480 keV, compared with the

> > >rather penetrating 2.22 MeV if captured in hydrogen.

> > >Chris Hofmeyr

> >

> > Building on this, a highly effective shielding (and very cheap compared

> > with boron-loaded poly) can be made by filling your shield with borax

> > granules and hydrating them to allow formation of a crystal lattice.

> > Borax technical grade granules can be obtained from many vendors - e.g. Van

> > Waters & Rogers here in Houston. Make sure to get true Borax, B037441 is

> > this company's order number, (sodium tetraborate decahydrate, also referred

> > to as 10 mol by this vendor).

> > Fill your shield half full with tap water. Pour Borax granules into the

> > shield, dispersing when it piles up above the water level. Maintain the

> > water level above the Borax granules at all times. As the shield fills,

> > Borax will displace the water which will run out of the shield as the

> > granules take their place. Stir the mixture to ensure that air does not

> > become trapped. Continue filling the shield until all water is displaced

> > with borax and the shield is completely filled. The Borax granules will

> > pack into a solid cake and will remain moist. Allow the shield to sit for a

> > minimum of 48 hours to allow the water and borax to settle and also allow

> > the borax to crystallize.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Doug Aitken             Schlumberger Drilling and Measurements QHSE

> > Advisor

> > Phone (Sugarland):      281 285-8009

> > Phone (Home office):    713 797-0919

> > Phone (Cell):           713 562-8585

> > Principal E-mail: jdaitken@earthlink.net

> > Schlumberger E-mail: daitken@sugar-land.oilfield.slb.com

> > Mail:   300 Schlumberger Drive MD2, Room 111

> >         Sugar Land, TX 77478

> >

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Doug Aitken		Schlumberger Drilling and Measurements QHSE 

Advisor

Phone (Sugarland):   	281 285-8009

Phone (Home office): 	713 797-0919	

Phone (Cell): 		713 562-8585

Principal E-mail: jdaitken@earthlink.net

Schlumberger E-mail: daitken@sugar-land.oilfield.slb.com

Mail: 	300 Schlumberger Drive MD2, Room 111

	Sugar Land, TX 77478









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