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Re: AW: How to Prepare for a Deployment to Iraq



Mr. Schoenhofe,



First I will not take any crap from anyone on any list.

Second, i am not just a nuclear physicist but also a

retired US Army Officer. Third, there are many military

both active, former and retired from many countries on

this list, all of which understand what the writers of

this message were saying. While my politics is my

business and none of your, of which it may just

surprise you on how I stand on the current US policy.

While soldiers in a free society who take their orders

from civilians have very little to do with the politics

of war except to live with the scars of it for the rest

of their lives and that is if they survive it ( Enjoy

your safety). I have made no insults to other nationals

on this list or any other list and take offense to you

and your insults. You Europeans as you state, better

get a real handle on what you believe "WE AMERICANS"

really stand for besides the crap you hear in the media

and the propaganda of your own media outlets. 



Lastly, I am NOT ASHAMED of who I am, what I stand for,

the combat and HUMANITARIAN missions i have

participated in and I am NOT ashamed that I served with

the United States Military. 



Apparently, "WE AMERICANS" are only good when we act as

a surrogate for the European Community. 



My post stand as is. In the words of a famous US

General who once said "NUTS"!



Gerry Blackwood Ph.D

LTC US Army (Ret)



On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 01:13:41 +0100, "Franz Schoenhofer"

wrote:



> 

> 

> 

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----

> Von: owner-radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu

> [mailto:owner-radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu]Im Auftrag

> von Gerry Blackwood

> Gesendet: Samstag, 13. Dezember 2003 17:43

> An: radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu

> Betreff: Fwd: How to Prepare for a Deployment to Iraq

> 

> 

> Ladies and Gentlemen,

> 

> I posted this to the site not as spam or to get

> insulting e-mail in retuen.

> ---------------------------------------------------

> 

> Mr Blackwood,

> 

> You seem to forget that the RADSAFE list is a list for

> radiation

> professionals. PLEASE EXPLAIN, WHY YOU SENT THIS S++T

> TO THIS LIST!!!!! Your

> message has nothing to do with radiation protection.

> Sending this to the

> list could only be excused by that you were

intoxicated

> by either ethanol or

> some other drugs. I really do hope that Mike will tell

> you about how to

> behave on this list!!!!!

> 

> I really do hope that you got a lot of what you call

> "insulting e-mails",

> because this would indicate that a large number of

> RADSAFErs are insulted by

> your unexcusable message. That your message is not

spam

> - you seem not to

> know, what "spam" is - can be easily recognized.

> 

> Furthermore you seem to forget that this list is open

> to all international

> participants. If you intend to do pro"American"

> propaganda, please do it on

> another list or create a new one. "We" Europeans are

> not interested in it.

> And during my last visit to the USA a few months ago I

> found, that without

> exceptions nobody of my friends supported the

> US-propaganda on Iraq.

> 

> Commenting on the content of the "message": If

> US-soldiers do not like the

> conditions in Iraq, they can always take to mutiny.

> They are well payed for

> being there. NOBODY HAS ASKED THEM TO GO THERE, EXCEPT

> THEIR PRESIDENT. They

> have waged "war" there without the consent of the

> United Nations, pretending

> that Iraq had a stockpile of Weapons of Mass

> Destruction - though everybody

> knew, that they had none and never any such weapons

> have been found. Direct

> your complaints to your president and his supporters.

> Nobody has asked US

> troops and their very few allies to kill tens of

> thousands of Iraqis -

> except their president.

> 

> If your contact person regards this as a "hoot" it is

> really ridiculous.

> Tell him that he is a shame to the United States.

> 

> This e-mail is not funny (how can you dare to say

> that!), but it is a slap

> into the face of any educated person. I hope that

> nobody at RADSAFE regards

> this as funny and even if it is close to reality I do

> not see any reason why

> it should be funny. This is the reality and if US

> troops do not like it they

> simply should stay out.

> 

> ----------------------------------

> Many of us served in the

> military and in Iraq either now or back in the 90s.

> 

> I have not served and I guess that most of the RADSAFE

> community has not

> served - take it to the appropriate Iraqi war list. I

> can hardly imagine

> that anybody will regard your message as funny. Enjoy

> your "Company

> Commanders" hoot, but do not bother us with his s++t.

> ---------------------------------------------

> While we are all scientist in one form or another many

> of us served and understand what this really means.

> While we are all safe at home right now many of our

> sons and daughter are in harms way. Remember that.

> -------------------------

> I refuse to accept you as a scientist "in one form or

> another" on the

> grounds of your inhuman opinion. If you served it is

> your problem and you

> should try to overcome it with psychological help. If

> others served it was

> as with you a part of their contract and there is

> nothing to complain about.

> Your complaint about "your" sons and daugthers I

simply

> regard ridiculous -

> they subscribed to the army and if they are killed it

> is a part of their

> contract, the same way it is for fire fighters.

> Nevertheless international

> sources talk about 24 000 Iraqis killed during the US

> agression.

> 

> Be ashamed!!!!!

> 

> Franz (no titles, Mr. Lt.Col USA ret.!)

> 

> 

> 

> Gerry Blackwood Ph.D

> Lt.Col USA ret

> 

> _



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