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Re: Eco-extremism



Have you seen Bruce Ames (UCB) studies showing natural carcinogens factor

far more than man-made?



He says that the 2 that are 10 x as likely to cause cancer as any others in

most Americans are  --  beer and wine!



Radiation in the UV part of the EM spectrum (sunshine)has been publicized to

cause melanoma when overdosed as on the backs of outback Australians, but in

LLNL worker doses, more UV related to LESS melanoma (as I  detailed here a

few months ago)



Ergo, it IS about dose, Bill!



Howard Long



Howard Long



----- Original Message ----- 

From: "Bill Prestwich" <prestwic@mcmaster.ca>

To: "Stabin, Michael" <michael.g.stabin@vanderbilt.edu>

Cc: <Radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu>

Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 6:47 AM

Subject: Re: Eco-extremism





In general, I have always been wary about parallels between chemical or

biological agents and radiation. The belief of the mystics to the contrary,

"man-made" radiation and "natural" radiation is of course identical, because

of its primitive fundamental nature. This is in sharp

contrast to the situation with macromolecules, where a slight alteration in

configuration may produce profoundly different behaviour. I believe it is

claimed that 90% of the pesticides to which mankind is exposed are naturally

produced. However in this instance, unlike the situation

with radiation, it is not necessarily possible to thereby dismiss the

potential hazards of introducing man-made pesticides, since it is probably

impossible to synthesize the entire spectrum. As regards fish farms, a major

concern is the introduction of anti-biotics in the feed. This

apparently is resulting in the evolution of new disease strains with which

the wild fish are unable to cope.

Sincerely,

Bill Prestwich



"Stabin, Michael" wrote:



> This article is only about PCBs in salmon, not radiation, but the

parallels are obvious. Many of us know Steve Milloy's Junk Science web site

and publications (http://www.junkscience.com/), I thought it was interesting

that this kind of analysis got national exposure on Fox News.

>

> Eco-Extremism, Not Science, Behind Fishy Salmon Scare, by Steven Milloy

>

> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,108570,00.html

>

> Excerpts:

>

> It was gullible media alarmism run amok as even the "scientists" whose

much-reported study appeared in the Jan. 9 issue of "Science" plainly

acknowledged there was no factual basis for concern.

>

> We can expect that the media will ignore such facts in favor of hype ¯

fear-mongering, not level-headedness, attracts readers and viewers.

>

> David Carpenter...is a well-known health-scare hyperventilator who likes

to masquerade as an impartial "expert" from the University of Albany's

Institute for Health and the Environment.

>

> At least the Pew Charitable Trusts are appropriately named. Like their

bogus salmon scare, they stink.

>

> Michael G. Stabin, PhD, CHP

> Assistant Professor of Radiology and Radiological Sciences

> Department of Radiology and Radiological Sciences

> Vanderbilt University

> 1161 21st Avenue South

> Nashville, TN 37232-2675

> Phone (615) 343-0068

> Fax   (615) 322-3764

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> e-mail     michael.g.stabin@vanderbilt.edu

> internet   www.doseinfo-radar.com

>

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