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Re: Radiation Hormesis



John, Jerry and Radsafers,



I have designed 2 studies to prove hormesis in humans, both with

difficulties greater than Cameron's current one of mortality rates in

elderly persons having uranium ore or placebo under their mattresses.



Clinical trial of ionizing radiation vs placebo could still fail to prove

hormesis to some. For example, an outlier population selected (Iowa for

Field's study of radon in homes of lung cancer patients vs controls) negates

application to the other 99% of USA population. Failure to separate subjects

presumed to be alike (Womens' Health initiative refusal to release data on

never-smokers separately) resulted in unwarranted scareing of half of USA's

elderly women out of taking the best osteoporsis treatment.



Evidence for most Americans to benefit from taking 10x present expoure to

ionizing radiation (and to sunshine) is already compelling. I have Jerry

Cohen's Special Issue on Radiation Hormesis (Health Physics, May, 1987) on

my desk next to Luckey's Radiation Hormesis and Pollycove - Feinendegan's

Biological and Epidemiological Foundations of Radiation Hormesis (Doctors

for Disaster Preparedness July 2001,WWW.OISM.org/DDP and J Nuc Med 42(7) and

(9), 2001. These have voluminous references.



Howard Long





----- Original Message ----- 

From: "Flood, John" <FloodJR@NV.DOE.GOV>

To: "'jjcohen'" <jjcohen@PRODIGY.NET>; "Franz Schoenhofer"

<franz.schoenhofer@CHELLO.AT>; <RuthWeiner@AOL.COM>; ""Joan Stovall""

<joans@PCEZ.COM>; ""Karl Ellison"" <ellison1@localnet.com>;

<radsafe-digest@list.vanderbilt.edu>

Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 3:19 PM

Subject: RE: Radiation Hormesis





> I had the good fortune of hearing Dr. Lucky speak on this subject - most

> entertaining, in addition to being informative - he made his case very

well.

> Given the low dose levels at which hormesis may exist, it seems to me that

a

> definitive study to prove or disprove the theory would require test and

> control populations that should be impossibly large, and thus the study

can

> never be done.  That would mean that hormesis is destined to remain no

more

> than a theory.  Do others concur on this?  Or might there be a way to test

> for and prove/disprove hormesis in humans?

>

> Bob Flood

> NTS Dosimetry

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: jjcohen [mailto:jjcohen@PRODIGY.NET]

> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 2:57 PM

> To: Franz Schoenhofer; RuthWeiner@AOL.COM; "Joan Stovall"; "Karl Ellison";

> radsafe-digest@list.Vanderbilt.Edu

> Subject: Re: Radiation Hormesis

>

>     In following this string on "radiation hormesis" it occurs to me that

> there must be some radsafers who are reasonably familiar with the

scientific

> evidence supporting hormesis, but are unconvinced that it is a valid

> phenomenon.

>     Just out of curiosity, I wonder what kind, or quality of evidence

would

> it take to convince you that hormesis is for real and ought to be taken

> seriously in formulating radiation policies? Would anyone care to take a

> crack at that?

>

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