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RE: DOE low dose research funds



Colleagues, John Jacobus wrote:

>I believe that DOE is sponsoring funding for research in low dose 

>effects.  See

>http://www.ans.org/pi/news/index.cgi?d=987026192   half-way down the page.



DOE has had a low dose research support program for several years as 

described on their web page at http://www.lowdose.org.  DOE may have 

changed the rules but originally their research support was only to 

look for risks from low doses. I contacted them about doing a double 

blind  study of increased background to senior citizens in the Gulf 

States. They replied that they could not support research for 

radiation benefits. They also pointed out that they can't support 

epidemiological studies because of their low statistical power.

	It is ironic that the best human data to show health benefit 

from low dose rate radiation  is the 1980-1988 DOE supported U.S. 

nuclear shipyard worker study. The non-cancer death rate was 16 std 

dev lower than the controls. Since the details of this important 

study has never been published it is not surprising that many on the 

radsafe list server are unaware of its results.

  	 DOE only knows how to look for cancer. Even there the 

nuclear workers had a cancer death rate 15% lower (p<0.01) than the 

controls. I agree with DOE that it is a waste of money to look for 

radiation risks via epidemiology but it sure looks OK to look for 

benefits.

	Best wishes,

	John Cameron



>

>

>--- "Flood, John" <FloodJR@NV.DOE.GOV> wrote:

>>  I had the good fortune of hearing Dr. Lucky speak on

>>  this subject - most

>>  entertaining, in addition to being informative - he

>>  made his case very well.

>>  Given the low dose levels at which hormesis may

>>  exist, it seems to me that a

>>  definitive study to prove or disprove the theory

>>  would require test and

>>  control populations that should be impossibly large,

>>  and thus the study can

>>  never be done.  That would mean that hormesis is

>>  destined to remain no more

>>  than a theory.  Do others concur on this?  Or might

>>  there be a way to test

>>  for and prove/disprove hormesis in humans?

>>

>>  Bob Flood

>>  NTS Dosimetry

>>

>>

>>  -----Original Message-----

>>  From: jjcohen [mailto:jjcohen@PRODIGY.NET]

>>  Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 2:57 PM

>>  To: Franz Schoenhofer; RuthWeiner@AOL.COM; "Joan

>>  Stovall"; "Karl Ellison";

>>  radsafe-digest@list.Vanderbilt.Edu

>>  Subject: Re: Radiation Hormesis

>>

>>      In following this string on "radiation hormesis"

>>  it occurs to me that

>>  there must be some radsafers who are reasonably

>>  familiar with the scientific

>>  evidence supporting hormesis, but are unconvinced

>>  that it is a valid

>>  phenomenon.

>>      Just out of curiosity, I wonder what kind, or

>>  quality of evidence would

>>  it take to convince you that hormesis is for real

>>  and ought to be taken

>>  seriously in formulating radiation policies? Would

>>  anyone care to take a

>>  crack at that?

>>

>>

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