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Re: Radiophobia wins again
What doesn't work is throwing inapplicable cliches at complicated issues.
Again and again and again. This gives the "perception" of a limited ability
to use reason in dealing with issues.
I haven't seen anything resembling a "comparative body count" on Radsafe.
What I have seen is the common, accepted practice of using real
incident/accident/mortality statistics to determine the relative safety of a
process. Saying that gasoline transportation kills people on the highway
and radiation does not is simply stating facts. There is nothing wrong with
pointing this out to the public. If we don't, then the remaining sources of
"information" becomes the organized groups out there that publish lies about
the issues.
There is no value in trivializing the efforts of people that are
trying to deal in fact, rather than hysteria, by mislabeling their efforts
as
"comparative body counts".
Vincent King
Grand Junction, CO
----- Original Message -----
From: "William V Lipton" <liptonw@DTEENERGY.COM>
To: "Stabin, Michael" <michael.g.stabin@vanderbilt.edu>
Cc: "Steven Dapra" <sjd@swcp.com>; <radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu>
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 6:26 AM
Subject: Re: Radiophobia wins again
> Comparative body counts, again (and again and again). It doesn't work.
>
> One thing overlooked in that argument is that it ignores the benefits side
> of the risk versus benefits equation. For Steve's "Joe Lunchpail" crowd,
> gasoline is a necessity. I doubt that Joe perceives any benefit from
waste
> shipments thru his city. Like it or not, perception is reality.
>
> The opinions expressed are strictly mine.
> It's not about dose, it's about trust.
> Curies forever.
>
> Bill Lipton
> liptonw@dteenergy.com
>
>
> "Stabin, Michael" wrote:
>
> > Why don't you propose a "Memorial" (strange term) to ask the oil
> > companies to stop all shipments of gasoline to and through Albuquerque?
> > If one of them explodes, you will have a much more serious situation.
> > I'm quite serious. If I lived there, I would do it. It won't get
> > approved, but it would make the point, publicly.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Michael G. Stabin, PhD, CHP
> > Assistant Professor of Radiology and Radiological Sciences
> > Department of Radiology and Radiological Sciences
> > Vanderbilt University
> > 1161 21st Avenue South
> > Nashville, TN 37232-2675
> > Phone (615) 343-0068
> > Fax (615) 322-3764
> > Pager (615) 835-5153
> > e-mail michael.g.stabin@vanderbilt.edu
> > internet www.doseinfo-radar.com
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Steven Dapra [mailto:sjd@swcp.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 10:03 PM
> > > To: radsafe@list.Vanderbilt.Edu
> > > Subject: Radiophobia wins again
> > >
> > >
> > > Jan. 22
> > >
> > > At last night's meeting, the Albuquerque City Council
> > > approved a Memorial to ask the Department of Energy to stop
> > > or restrict shipments of waste through Albuquerque going to
> > > the Waste Isolation Pilot Project (WIPP) near Carlsbad, NM.
> > > The approval was unanimous.
> > >
> > > Seventeen people spoke in favor of the Memorial, and
> > > three spoke against it. One of the Councilors, a mechanical
> > > engineer, told us he had worked at a power reactor in
> > > Missouri, and he was going to support the Memorial. His
> > > reason was that the DOE has a poor record when it comes to
> > > gaining public trust. He didn't define the word "public."
> > > The "public" last night and at similar events consists of a
> > > small group of scientifically illiterate citizens with a
> > > political agenda. How many members of the general "Joe
> > > Lunchpail" public do you suppose care one way or the other
> > > about DOE's record, or about WIPP?
> > >
> > > The local anti-WIPP group was handing out a small flyer
> > > at the meeting that said, "If a nuclear waste container
> > > explodes or breaks open the effect will be that of a
> > > terrorist dirty bomb." It added, in underlined bold type,
> > > "Stay away from the radioactive trucks on I-40!" - the
> > > freeway through Albuquerque - as if anyone is going to be
> > > fool enough to try and maneuver his car up to a
> > > tractor-trailer rig traveling at 60 miles an hour.
> > >
> > > Steven Dapra
> > > sjd@swcp.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
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