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Re: Fwd: Alien Abduction Memories Under Hypnosis/ Re: Strontium-90on Tennessee Highway 95
By the way, prior to aliens from outer space, people
were kidnapped by leprechauns and elves.
--- Stewart Farber <farbersa@optonline.net> wrote:
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> ------- Start of forwarded message -------
> From: Stewart Farber <radproject@optonline.net>
> To: radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu, John Jacobus
> <crispy_bird@YAHOO.COM>
> Subject: Fwd: Alien Abduction Memories Under
> Hypnosis/ Re: Strontium-90 on
> Tennessee Highway 95
> Date: 5/18/04 1:19:23 PM
>
> 5/18/04 10:33:35 AM, John Jacobus
> <crispy_bird@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
>
> >I believe that it was in Carl Sagan's book, "The
> >Demon-Haunted World," that some psychologist
> believe
> >people were abduced by aliens from space. It has
> to
> >be true because the patients said so.
> >
> =========================
> Hi all:
>
> An interesting intersection of a radiation therapy
> done on hundreds of thousands
> of young children and possible alien abduction
> memories follows. Bear with me, it might be
> of interest to some. If not, simply delete.
>
> I recall hearing about the psychiatrist at Harvard
> [Dr. Mack] who wrote a book
> about 10 years ago claiming that he had hypnotized a
> number of patients who had
> alien abduction memories. Many of these people
> studied by the Harvard
> psychiatrist recalled quite clearly under hypnosis
> that they were held down
> under bright lights and metal rods inserted up their
> noses or in their ears.
>
> This Harvard psychiatrist claimed that these
> memories were "real" --that
> something really happened to these people. However,
> what happened may have
> NOTHING to do with aliens but with an ill-advised
> medical procedure done on
> mostly children from post-WWII up through the mid
> 1970s in some locations -the
> procedure called Nasal Radium Irradiation [NRI]. The
> CDC now estimates that no fewer [their Lo-Lo
> Estimate] than 560,000 children received this
> procedure up through 1961 [with a Hi-Hi Estimate of
> 2,600,000 treated]. The most likely mean number of
> children treated is quite approximately 1,000,000.
>
> As strange as it may seem, it is possible that some
> of these claimed cases of
> alien abduction memories may be related to a medical
> procedure received by these individuals as children
> wherein radium tipped rods [50 mg source strength,
> 0.3 mm Monel encapsulated to maximize beta dose]
> were inserted three to four times [for a single
> course of therapy] bilaterally up their noses and
> positioned at the opening of the Eustachian tube to
> shrink the individual's adenoids. See the photo on
> page one of the following former web page I had
> started on this issue which came from a medical
> text
> published by a doctor from Johns Hopkins, to see
> what a child being treated looked like:
>
> http://www.farber.info/reap/default.htm
>
> BTW, if anyone is interested in the NRI issue which
> delivered average contact
> doses to the nasopharynx of about 2,000 rads, they
> can scroll through the above "snapshot" of my
> former,
> expired web site on this issue.
>
> As mentioned in the Annotated Bibliography, NRI was
> found to have had the highest
> risk of cancer death to a group of children treated
> experimentally by Johns Hopkins from 1948 - 1953 of
> any of the 4,000 experiments reviewed by the
> President's Advisory Committee on Human Radiation
> Experiments in their Final Report to Pres. Clinton
> in 1995. NRI was also found to be the only
> experiment reviewed by the ACHRE to exceed [by a
> factor of about 10] the ACHRE committee's
> preselected
> threshold for medical notice and followup [excess
> risk of cancer death of 1 in 1,000 experessed over a
>
> lifetime], but refused to recommend notice. Dr.
> Glatstein, a respected radiation oncologist and one
> of
> the 14 members of ACHRE, voted in favor of notice
> and followup but was opposed by the other 13 members
> of
> the committee because it was not "politically
> acceptable" according to Dr. Glatstein to notify
> this
> [large] population of human radiation experimental
> subjects. So as usual politics [even under Clinton],
>
> and fears of embarassment by Johns Hopkins
> University and Hospital if medical notice and
> followup were
> done for 500 or so children [and 7,600 WWII era
> veterans] in the Hopkins NRI experiment, trumped
> science.
> But I digress. Back to Alien Abductions:
>
> A friend of mine who collects books on alien
> abductions and other paranormal
> issues tells me that THE most common theme in every
> alien abduction memory mentioned by people who think
>
> they were abducted is that the person was held down
> under bright lights and metal rods inserted up
> their nose or in other body orifices by aliens.
> Oddly enough, of the 1,000 or so people who
> contacted me
> back in 1996 -97 from Maryland primarily, who
> received NRI treatments after extensive news
> coverage
> there, a goodly number of individuals treated as
> older children, clearly told me that some doctors
> inserted the rods into their ears foolishly thinking
> it would help destroy bacteria present with middle
> ear infections!! So some children were indeed
> treated with radium rods in the ears as well as in
> the
> nose with radium tipped rods [to shrink their
> adenoids and open the Eustachian tubes], even though
> there
> was no evidence or expectation that radium
> irradiation of a middle ear bacterial
> infection [through the eardrum] was the least bit
> efficacious.
>
> These children who received NRI [some of whom were
> treated as infants as young as
> 6 months to only a few years old --average age about
> 8 yo.] would likely have very strange, and sometimes
>
> repressed memories of what was in some cases a
> traumatic treatment. The child would have been
> required
> to recline under a bright light while a doctor with
> a 6" or so a parabolic metallic relector with a
> hole in the middle [for the doctor to view through]
> focused the bright light on the nasal opening so the
>
> doctor could accurately position the rod through the
> nostrils, past the turbinates in the nasal opening,
>
> to the rear of the nasopharynx. There is a photo in
> the book which is a source for the photo in the
> link above [Proctor, D.F., "The Tonsils and Adenoids
> in Childhood". 1968] which shows what a child
> would have seen in looking up at a doctor inserting
> the rod. I haven't yet scanned this photo but it is
> quite suggestive of a large one-eyed alien form to a
> nervous young child. From the perspective of the
> child they would see a head with one very bright
> "eye" in the middle which may in a repressed, fuzzy
> memory have become an "alien" inserting a metal rod.
> Who knows. This may explain some of the strange
> abduction memories in some people. This is obviously
> just a "hypothesis".
>
> If a very young child squirmed, or would not keep
> still in their parent's arms
> while being treated, they were put on a "papoose
> board" and bundled [wrapped in blankets] to
> restraint
> them for the 10 to 12 minutes duration of each
> irradiation, until the rods were removed. Some older
>
> children were put in barber chairs in some centers
> in Baltimore which used NRI extensively in the
> 1950s,
> and straps put on their arms, head and chest to keep
> them perfectly still while they were reclined and
> the NRI procedure done. What kind of memories might
> these people, treated as children, have? Perhaps
> they could not intellectually, in their conscious
> mind, accept their parents taking them to a
> doctor to have this done and the repressed memories
> of them having the procedure done took on that it
> was
>
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"We cannot escape danger, or the fear of danger, by crawling into bed and pulling the covers over our heads."
-- Franklin Delano Roosevelt
-- John
John Jacobus, MS
Certified Health Physicist
e-mail: crispy_bird@yahoo.com
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