Re: Article: Lung cancer screening raises OR LOWERS lung cancerrisk

["Howard Long" <hflong@pacbell.net>]

Hormesis IS Established!



John, I will not leave as last word your clearly erroneous (and seriously

damaging) statement that, "doses at rates less than 100 mSv cannot be shown

to have

 either a beneficial or detrimental effect.".!   NOT  SO! See references

below.

Howard Long



----- Original Message ----- 

From: "John Jacobus" <crispy_bird@YAHOO.COM>

To: "Howard Long" <hflong@pacbell.net>; <TConley@kdhe.state.ks.us>;

<radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu>

Cc: <rad-sci-1@wpi.edu>

Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 7:34 PM

Subject: Re: Article: Lung cancer screening raises OR LOWERS lung cancer

risk





> I appreciate the information on PSA and its relation

> to prostate cancer.

>

> While effects can be shown for isolated cases of low

> dose radiation expose, hormesis will always be a

> marginal subject. As I have stated many times, doses

> at rates less than 100 mSv cannot be shown to have

> either a beneficial or detrimental effect.

>

> --- Howard Long <hflong@pacbell.net> wrote:

> > John and other hormesis marginalizers,

> >

> > 1. Metastases or regrowth may be indicated by PSA up after prostate

removal

> > or ablation.

> > 2. Radiation oncologists and all other physicians

> > are greatly inhibited by  lawsuits for any non-standard treatment.

> > 3.Sensitzing with LDR (10-75 rad) before radiotherapy of c100rad 3x/week

for

> > 6-8 weeks, has shown much better response of cancers

> > (see references on Muckerheide's list below).

> >

> > Howard Long

> >

> > ----- Original Message ----- 

> > From: "John Jacobus" <crispy_bird@yahoo.com>

> > To: "Howard Long" <hflong@pacbell.net>; "John

> > Jacobus"

> > <crispy_bird@YAHOO.COM>; <TConley@kdhe.state.ks.us>;

> > <radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu>

> > Cc: <rad-sci-1@wpi.edu>

> > Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 1:37 PM

> > Subject: Re: Article: Lung cancer screening raises

> > OR LOWERS lung cancer

> > risk

> >

> >

> > > Why would a patient be treated for increased PSA?

> > > Since when is a radiation oncologist restricted by

> > > regulations?  How would sensitizing a patient with

> > LDR

> > > help with radiation treatement?  Following your

> > logic,

> > > that would make the tumor more radiation

> > resistent?

> > >

> > > --- Howard Long <hflong@pacbell.net> wrote:

> > > > "Political agenda" or scientific correction,

> > John?

> > > >

> > > > Yes, I would want hormesis, hopefully with less

> > cost

> > > > but dose equal to or

> > > > greater than CT.

> > > >

> > > > And it's not just me.

> > > > At the DDP meeting 2 days ago, a health

> > physicist

> > > > sought from me and a

> > > > radiation oncologist how to get LDR (for

> > increasing

> > > > PSA, after prostate

> > > > removal years ago for cancer). That radiationo

> > > > oncologist had felt

> > > > restricted 5 years ago (from treating another

> > health

> > > > physicist I referred to

> > > > him with prostate cancer), with sensitizing LDR

> > 2

> > > > weeks before high dose

> > > > radiotherapy for the cancer.

> > > >

> > > > Apparently, standard therapy (dictated by

> > lawsuits)

> > > > is becoming more

> > > > scientific.

> > > >

> > > > Howard Long





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