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Re: Sunshine-"lower UV has higher risk of melanoma" LLNL
Howard,
I noticed that the tread you are responding to is
dated July 26, 2003. Why are you bother at this time?
As regarding your comment about vasodilation for a
treatment of gangrene, I believe that the irradiation
destroyed the rapidly proliferating bacteria. I have
not seen any studies that show ionizing radiation is a
vasodilator. The effects of high doses have shown
that the vascular epithelial layers are destroyed and
edema results.
--- Howard Long <hflong@pacbell.net> wrote:
> Thank you for the response, John.
> 1. Numbers do count. B.Cohen's study of most USA
> lung cancer deaths over
> years (hundreds of thousands), and cleverly using
> error bars as "points" is
> the epitomy of this.
>
> 2.Quality of data can mitigate limited numbers.
> This is where statistical significance of the LLNL
> study by Moore et al
> becomes important. Variation was minimized when
> education and work
> start-date were included.
> More exact matching erased previously suggested
> association of melanoma with
> IONIZING RADIATION. It also reversed the positive
> association of melanoma
> with sunshine.
>
> I am waiting for Field's comment about his own
> "matched controls" -only 35%
> smoked vs 95% of his lung cancer cases. True
> matching (rather than computer
> simulations, as fail with the global warming myth)
> could reverse Field's
> findings, also.
>
> 3. Sunshine deficiency could be shown in many ways.
> People feel better, have
> less SAD (seasonal affective disorder), and a recent
> study of wound healing
> shows it twice as fast with heat. I believe a
> physical mechanism could be
> vasodilation (pre-sunburn)
>
> Ionizing radiation effect could also be by
> vasodilation. 75 rem doses to
> gangrene were standard treatment 60 years ago
> (described by Jerry Cuttler at
> DDP meetings).
>
> Howard Long----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "John Jacobus" <crispy_bird@YAHOO.COM>
> To: <hflong@postoffice.pacbell.net>;
> <radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu>;
> <rad-sci-1@wpi.edu>
> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 6:41 PM
> Subject: Re: Sunshine-"lower UV has higher risk of
> melanoma" LLNL
>
>
> > Howard,
> > And what are you talking about? I do not consider
> a
> > single cohort study based on a total of 138
> > individuals to be much of a study. Try, for a
> start,
> >
> > May be you should be ashamed of not being able to
> > checking the scientific literature adequately.
> You
> > find one study that "seems" to support you
> contention
> > that 10X the sunshine is good for you, and totally
> > ignore any other studies. Actually, since the
> > controls had less exposure at Site 300, it seems
> to me
> > that sunlight at this "sunny hill" is the cause of
> the
> > melanomas. I also note that your comments do not
> > address ionizing radiation.
> >
> > By the way, where do you get your idea that most
> > Americans do not get enough sunshine? Is there an
> > outbreak of rickettes in adults? (I assume that
> as a
> > physician you know rickettes is a developmental
> > disease in children. But I could be wrong.)
> >
>
=====
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-- John
John Jacobus, MS
Certified Health Physicist
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