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RE: LLRC Email - FW: Four nuclear wars
- To: "Falo, Gerald A Dr KADIX" <Jerry.Falo@us.army.mil>
- Subject: RE: LLRC Email - FW: Four nuclear wars
- From: "A Karam" <paksbi@rit.edu>
- Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 11:11:19 -0500
- Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 10:12:14 -0600
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- Thread-Topic: LLRC Email - FW: Four nuclear wars
Cancer is a stochastic process, which means it should occur randomly in
time and in space. Any random phenomenon will have areas with higher
and lower numbers of events. For example, if you throw a handful of
sand on a table, there will be places where you have clusters of sand
particles, even if the table is perfectly smooth and uniform.
Cancer is not a rare disease, so the overall incidence is high enough
that virtually every neighborhood and social group (family, circle of
friends, etc.) will experience it. And, by pure chance, there will be
some areas in which a number of cancers manifest themselves in a
relatively limited region or social grouping. Our tendency as humans is
to try to see patterns, so we want to find a pattern (a reason) for
these groupings. We have trouble accepting that sometimes we get these
groupings due to chance, so we look for environmental factors.
As one example, my mother has 5 brothers and sisters, two of whom have
died of cancer. This is twice the national average, so I suppose we
could look for a reason. But Uncle Mart had a different type of cancer
than Uncle Mike, they died at different ages (45 versus 71), and they
had very different histories as adults. To me, this is not a cancer
cluster - it's just bad luck. Sad, but still bad luck.
I would suggest that, if we look hard enough, we can always find some
commonality among almost any random group of people. This is especially
so if the group is associated by geography, genetics, or social factors.
So then the tendency is to say "This group of people have a higher
incidence of cancer and they all eat the same brand of pickles, so the
pickles must cause cancer." By finding this "association", we can feel
happy that we "know" what caused the cancer, and we can also feel happy
that, by avoiding that particular "cause", we are making ourselves a
little safer. It's like throwing all your darts at the wall and drawing
the target to give yourselves the highest number of points.
So I don't trust cancer clusters except when they're identified by
someone trained in epidemiology who has no stake in the analysis.
Andy
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu
[mailto:owner-radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu] On Behalf Of John Jacobus
Cancer and other medical clusters are not that
unusual.
http://cis.nci.nih.gov/fact/3_58.htm
and
http://www.cdc.gov/nceh/clusters/
If you throw a number of markers onto a chess board,
you probably will find a cluster in one or more of the
squares.