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RE: Activity and Dose Analogies



Interesting !



I will remember that. I have sometimes used the example of a hot water

radiator to explain the difference between radiation and contamination.

Its not perfect of course but goes like ...



A hot water radiator is filled with hot water - the water can be likened

if you will to radioactive material, and the radiator itself the source

containment.



If you go up to the radiator you are exposed to thermal heat, which one

can assume is similar to that for exposure to a source (please ignore

the exact physics here). As you walk away from the radiator your

exposure reduces. At no point does the 'water' come into contact with

you.



You then walk up to the radiator - its sprung a leak and the water is

spraying at you. Now you are not only exposed to the heat from the

radiator itself, but also the heat from the water which is landing on

you. Walking away from the radiator will still reduce your 'direct

exposure', but the water which landed on you will still deposit its

thermal energy (i.e. it stays with you), in a similar way to you

becoming contaminated with radioactive material from a leaking source.



The above actually works better if presented as an animation (I have

used this in some training course). Its been particularly useful when

explaining the concept of food irradiation - I remember being asked if

the radiation 'sticks' to irradiated tomatoes! Actually come to think of

it, I remember my Grandmother arguing that she would never use a

microwave because the microwaves stick in the food so I suppose the

analogy could work with non-ionising radiation too.



Cheers all



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-----Original Message-----

From: owner-radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu

[mailto:owner-radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu] On Behalf Of Jim Blute

Sent: 29 December 2004 14:06

To: Stabin, Michael

Cc: radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu

Subject: RE: Activity and Dose Analogies



Mike,



I like this.  I have used guns and bullets as an analogy often for the

same purpose and have often received comments that this might be too

harsh and scary an analogy.  I must admit I agree.  The boxer is still a

bit violent but less associated with death than a gun.  Yet still

something everyone is familiar with.



I am sure there must be better than that still.  Something less violent

but still physically comparable.



Thanks for the post Mike.



Any other good analogies out there?



-----Original Message-----

From: owner-radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu

[mailto:owner-radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu]On Behalf Of Stabin, Michael

Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 6:52 AM

To: radsafe

Subject: BBC analogies







This showed up in a technical report I was reading. No reference was

given. I just thought it was interesting.



The British Broadcasting Company (BBC) has provided an illustrative

boxing analogy to contrast what is intended by the three international

radiation measures.  It depicts, for the public, the qualitative

differences between Bq, Gy and Sv as:



Bq: " a measure of how many punches are thrown without regard to whether

they are roundhouses, hooks, jabs, or even if they connect at all."



Gy: "a unit that measures whether the punch is a strong uppercut or just

a little jab. However, the gray wouldn't show the cumulative effect of

something like 100 jabs to the exact same spot on the cheekbone versus

one hard punch to the solar plexus"



Sv: "useful in determining the likelihood that (the boxer) might suffer

some long-term damage as a result of this pummeling." "In short, a Sv is

the most useful but complicated and subjective unit for measuring

radiation effects on people."





Mike





Michael G. Stabin, PhD, CHP

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