[ RadSafe ] Re: LDR extends lifespan, and immune competence (again,
still)
jjcohen
jjcohen at prodigy.net
Sun Apr 3 21:15:11 CEST 2005
FYI, a few years ago there was a string on radsafe on the possibility of administering supplementary radioactivity to those with "radiation deficiency" in order to achieve "optimal dosage". In discussing the best radionuclide for the purpose, as I recall, those that tend to concentrate in single organs such as the radioiodines should be avoided. I don't think any consensus was reached on what the "best" radionuclide should be, but because of its uniform distribution, tritium would seem to be a good bet.
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From: yuan-chi luan
To: uniqueproducts at comcast.net
Cc: shliu at iner.gov.tw
Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: LDR extends lifespan, and immune competence (again, still)
Dear Dr. Caplan:
I think any isotope might be ok, but should with long biohalf-live. Kondo ever analysed the dose in received by ever fisherman. There was a NUREG by NRC about the atomic bomb workers internal contaminated, the doses might be able found.
Y.C Luan
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>From: "Jay Caplan" <uniqueproducts at comcast.net>
>Reply-To: "Jay Caplan" <uniqueproducts at comcast.net>
>To: "yuan-chi luan" <nbcsoc at hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: LDR extends lifespan, and immune competence (again, still)
>Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 14:25:25 -0600
>
>Dr. Luan,
>Which isotope were you considering and dosage?
>Jay Caplan
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> From: yuan-chi luan
> To: kazsakai at criepi.denken.or.ip
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> Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 1:50 PM
> Subject: FW: LDR extends lifespan, and immune competence (again, still)
>
>
> Dear Dr. Sakai:
>
> You will remember Y.C. Luan when when you remember some one giving a Chinese dinner in Hawaii.
>
> I am glad to see your paper again. Your paper in Hawaii showed the low-dose-rate irrdiation of mice could reduce their skin tumor,thymic lymphumas, diabetes and sever autoimmune disease really given me tremendous impression. Radiation is not harmful as ICRP espected
>
> The low-dose-rate external radiation could immune a lot bad thing, I would like to give you a idea for you to think the possibility in testing with mice to have low-dose-rate of internal radiation by injection of some long-life radioactive isotope into the mice. The only trouble you have to treat the mice as radio-waste. The manhattan workers and the fishermen in Lucky Dragon 5 had quite high internal contamination, but they are not 25% died in cancers, they seemed to immunized. is it possibly to have immunization by injection? is it better to have immunity in the Co-60 contamianted apartments in Taiwan?
>
> Please give regards to Dr. Hattori
>
> Y.C. Luan
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>
>
> >From: "Muckerheide, James" <jimm at WPI.EDU>
> >To: <rad-sci-l at WPI.EDU>
> >Subject: LDR extends lifespan, and immune competence (again, still)
> >Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 11:41:00 -0500
> >
> >Friends,
> >
> >This paper is by our great friends Yasuhiro Ina and Kazuo Sakai at the CRIEPI
> >Low Dose Radiation Research Center in Komae.
> >
> >I have not yet read the full paper. The journal contents may not yet be
> >internet accessible. Let me know if you need it for review when it is
> >available (or perhaps request it from Yasuhiro or Kaz, though they may also
> >be waiting for the final published version :-).
> >
> >Regards, Jim Muckerheide
> >Radiation, Science, and Health
> >=====================
> >
> >Ina, Y. and Sakai, K.
> >
> >Further Study of Prolongation of Life Span Associated with Immunological
> >Modification by Chronic Low-Dose-Rate Irradiation in MRL-lpr/lpr Mice:
> >Effects of Whole-Life Irradiation.
> >
> >Radiat. Res. 163, 418-423 (2005).
> >
> >MRL-lpr/lpr mice carry a deletion in the apoptosis-regulating Fas gene that
> >markedly shortens life due to multiple severe diseases. In our previous study
> >(Radiat. Res. 161, 168- 173, 2004), chronic low-dose-rate gamma irradiation
> >of mice at 0.35 or 1.2 mGy/h for 5 weeks markedly prolonged the life span,
> >accompanied by immunological activation. This report shows that extension of
> >the irradiation period to the entire life of the mice at the same dose rates
> >improved survival further. The 50% survival time for untreated mice, 134
> >days, was prolonged to 502 days by 1.2 mGy/h life-long irradiation. Also
> >obtained were a time course and a radiation dose-rate response for the
> >activation of the immune system as indicated by a significant increase in
> >CD4(+) CD8(+) T cells in the thymus and CD8(+) T cells in the spleen and also
> >by a significant decrease in CD3(+) CD45R/B220(+) cells and CD45R/B220(+)
> >CD40(+) cells in the spleen. Drastic ameliorations of multiple severe
> >diseases, i.e. total-body lymphadenopathy, splenomegaly and serious
> >autoimmune diseases including proteinuria, and kidney and brain-central
> >nervous system syndromes, were found in parallel with these immunological
> >activations, with lifelong low-dose-rate irradiation being more effective
> >than 5-week irradiation at low dose rates.
> >
> >
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