[ RadSafe ] MSDS stupidity

[Robert Atkinson]

I was once sent a sample of a hazardous chemical to test in one of our
dispensing machines. It was in the packaging of a well known Lab
chemical supplier and complete with a MSDS. The safety precautions
included gloves, eye and respiratory protection. Skin contact was to be
avoided and if ingested immediate medical attention should be sought. 
What was this highly dangerous chemical? Liquid paraffin, a common
ingredient of baby oil and a common laxative! 
I guess if they put all possible warnings on the MSDS then they can't be
sued.

Robert Atkinson.

-----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] On
Behalf Of Mercado, Don
Sent: 07 July 2005 15:53
To: James Salsman; radsafe at radlab.nl
Subject: [ RadSafe ] RE: statements by Lockheed Martin
Corporation'semployee Don Mercado

You can read anything you what in books, post as many links as you want,
as long as you choose them to agree with your agenda, but in the real
world, they don't always agree with what is. The MSDS says it doesn't
spontaneously ignite, and in reality, mine doesn't. Who am I going to
believe? You, with a lack of education and real world experience, and an
obvious agenda, or what's happening with this stuff I'm holding in my
hand? I have a book *and* an MSDS here that says that finely divided
Mg-Th metal is pyrophoric. But I've shipped HUNDREDS of 55 gallon drums
of the stuff to low level radioactive waste sites without a problem.
Driven forklifts over the stuff. Ground it between my palms. I don't
know who writes some of those books and documents, but a lot of times
they don't reflect reality. Just like your statements. Ever read an MSDS
for distilled water? That stuff will KILL you!

As far as my familiarization with our products, that's a red herring
tossed in on your part. This company is massive. I'm sure even the CEO
isn't familiar with the details of all our products. On average, we do
GREAT things. I am proud of this company, what we do and produce. Peace
through strength. Those who beat their swords into plowshares will be
ruled by those who don't. Our products protect your right to freely post
your opinions, no matter how eclectic, and advance mankind's knowledge
of this universe. I'm lucky enough to get a ring side seat to it all.  

Sadly, you resort to another familiar anti-nuke tactic. If you can't
debate the argument, assassinate the character of the messenger. I'd
stack my education, experience and objectivity up against yours any day.

-----Original Message-----
From: James Salsman [mailto:james at bovik.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 9:26 PM
To: Mercado, Don; radsafe at radlab.nl
Subject: statements by Lockheed Martin Corporation's employee Don
Mercado


Don Mercado, who works for Lockheed Martin Corporation, which sells
weapons systems that use PGU-14/B armor piercing incendiary 30mm
ordnance, proves that he is willing to suggest that uranium is not
pyrophoric, and therefore that he is unfamiliar with the weapons that
his employer manufactures.  He writes:

>... since my U powder and DU doesn't burst into flames, I'd  trust  the

>MSDS first.
 
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