[ RadSafe ] Adrenalin, NOT Depleted Uranium associated with illness

[howard long]

Dear Norm,
Like witch burners in Europe 400 years ago, who had to blame someone for storms, 
we could do more harm than good (to emission-free nuclear power) by blaming 
war and adrenalin effects on DU. DU radiation exposure was less than than a healing radon mine in Montana or the healing radon springs of Europe or even the healthier, 
higher background radiation counties in the USA.
 
Adrenalin blockers halve the total mortality rates of hypertensives, of heart- failure 
and after heart attacks. War would do the opposite to me, if confronting anthrax 
(what happened to those 10,000 liters of spores?), VX (worse than what Saddam 
used on the Kurds) or the unknowns of a madman who was working with Al Qida
and close to having a nuclear weapon.       

Howard Long

Norm Cohen <ncohen12 at comcast.net> wrote:


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Subject: What is Depleted Uranium?
Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 03:46:36 -0700 (PDT)

courtesy The Lone Star Iconoclast Online

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A Scientific Perspective

An Interview With
LEUREN MORET, Geoscientist

Interview Conducted
By W. Leon Smith
and Nathan Diebenow


Leuren Moret is a geoscientist who works almost around the clock educating 
citizens, the media, members of parliaments and Congress and other 
officials on radiation issues. She became a whistleblower in 1991 at the 
Livermore Nuclear Weapons Lab after witnessing fraud on the Yucca Mountain 
Project. She is currently working as an independent citizen scientist and 
radiation specialist in communities around the world, and contributed to 
the U.N. subcommission investigating depleted uranium. According to 
Wikipedia online encyclopedia, Moret testified at the International 
Criminal Tribunal for Afghanistan in Japan in 2003, presented at the World 
Depleted Uranium Weapons Conference in Hamburg, Germany, and spoke at the 
World Court of Women at the World Social Forum in Bombay, India, in 
January 2004.

THE INTERVIEW


ICONOCLAST: What are the latest developments with reducing depleted 
uranium exposures on U.S. troops?


MORET: A young veteran named Melissa Sterry of Connecticut has introduced 
a bill into the Connecticut Legislature requiring independent testing of 
returning Afghan and Gulf War veterans going back to 2001. She said that 
she did it because she’s sick, and her friends are dead, and that’s from 
serving in the 2003 conflict. I have been following the bill and talking 
to her. Yesterday, she testified twice at the United Nations. I said, “Why 
don’t we get this bill all over the U.S. in state legislatures because it 
informs the public and get the local media to cover it.”
The U.S. has blocked any accountability at international and national 
levels. There’s a total cover-up just like with Agent Orange, the atomic 
veterans, MKULTRA, the mind control experiments the CIA did. This is more 
of the same, but the issue is much, much worse because the genetic future 
of all those contaminated is effected. Now vast regions around our world, 
as well as our atmosphere, are contaminated with the depleted uranium. 
They’ve used so much. It’s the equivalent number of atoms, as the Japanese 
professor calculated it, to over 400,000 Nagasaki bombs that has been 
released into the atmosphere. That’s really an underestimate.
I went to Louisiana in April. I was invited to speak at the University of 
New Orleans for three days. One of the veterans asked me to be in their 
April 19 protest and rally through the City of New Orleans. He took the 
Connecticut bill straight to the Legislature, and he got two legislators 
to sponsor it, and he said, “Just whiteout the name ‘Connecticut’ and 
write in ‘Louisiana’ on the bill.” You’re not going to believe it. It 
passed 101 to 0 yesterday in the Louisiana House.
I want you to write about it because we want it (the DU testing bill) in 
Texas. Nevada is going to introduce it. Congressman Jim McDermott is going 
to put it into the Washington legislature. We want to get the governor of 
Montana to do it because he’s the first governor to demand his National 
Guard be returned. I think half of them are back. He said, “I need them in 
the state.”
The DU issue is just really, really, really, really so awful. I don’t 
think there’s any greater tragedy in the history of the world in what 
they’ve done.


ICONOCLAST: Is there a danger of depleted uranium, being used in weaponry 
over there, spreading by air over here?


MORET: The atmosphere globally is contaminated with it. It’s completely 
mixed in one year. I’m an expert on atmospheric dust. I’m a geoscientist, 
a geologist, and that’s what I studied and did my research on. It’s really 
a fascinating subject. We have huge dust storms that are a million square 
miles and transport millions of tons of dust and sand every year around 
the world.
The main centers of these dust storms are the Gobi Desert in China, which 
is where the Chinese did atmospheric testing, so that’s all contaminated 
with radiation, and it gets transported right over Japan, and it comes 
straight across the Pacific and dumps all its sand and dust on the U.S., 
North America. It’s loaded with radioactive isotopes, soot, pesticides, 
chemicals, pollution — everything is in it — fungi, bacteria, viruses.
The Sahara Desert is another huge dust center, and it goes up all over 
Europe and straight across the Atlantic, to the Caribbean, and up the East 
Coast. Of course, you get it in Texas with those hurricanes. They all 
originate in the Sahara Desert.
The third region is the Western United States, which is where the Nevada 
test site is located. We did 1,200 nuclear weapons tests there, so all 
this radiation that is already there, which is bad enough, has caused a 
global cancer epidemic since 1945. All of that radiation was the 
equivalent of 40,000 Nagasaki bombs. We’re talking about 10 times more.
In April of 2003, the World Health Organization said they expect global 
cancer rates to increase 50 percent by the year 2020.
Infant mortality is going up again all over the world. This is an 
indicator of the level of radioactive pollution.
When the U.S. and Russia signed the partial test ban treaty in 1963, the 
infant mortality rate started dropping again, which is normal.
Now they are going up again. It’s the global pollution with this radiation.


ICONOCLAST: I had one of our correspondents send me a series of 
photographs of the Al-Asad dust storm in Iraq on April 28.


MORET: That dust is what I’m talking about.


ICONOCLAST: In the picture you can see a gigantic wall of sand.


MORET: I have 16 pictures of that storm. They’re posted with photos from 
Iraqi doctors of the children of people with cancer and leukemia. So what 
did you think of that dust storm?


ICONOCLAST: I thought it was really dramatic.


MORET: It remobilizes all the radiation, but those are the larger chunks. 
The DU burns at such high temperatures. It’s a pyroforic metal which means 
it burns. The bullets and big caliber shells are actually on fire when 
they come out of the gun barrel because they are ignited by the friction 
in the gun barrel. Seventy percent of the DU metal becomes a metal vapor. 
It’s actually a radioactive gas weapon and a terrain contaminant.
I’ll email you the URL of the 1943 memo to General Leslie Grove under the 
Manhattan Project. It’s the blueprint for depleted uranium. They dropped 
the atomic bombs, but they did not use the DU weapons because they thought 
they were too horrific.
I’ve toured and gone all over Japan with a pediatrician in Basra and an 
oncologist, a cancer specialist. These poor doctors — their whole families 
are dying of cancer. He has 10 members of his family with cancer now that 
he’s treating, and this is just from Gulf War I. They’ve used much, much, 
much more in 2003. All over the whole country.


ICONOCLAST: What can soldiers expect when they come home?


MORET: If they were in Bradley Fighting Vehicles, they’re coming home with 
rectal cancer from sitting on ammunition boxes. The young women are 
reporting terrible problems with endometriosis. That’s the lining of the 
uterus malfunctioning, and they just bleed and bleed and bleed. Some of 
them have uterine cancer — 18 and 19 and 20 year olds.
The Army will not even diagnose it. They send them back to the 
battlefields. They won’t treat them or diagnose them. A group of 20 
soldiers pushed from Kuwait to Baghdad in 2003 in all the fighting. Eight 
of those 20 soldiers have malignancies.


ICONOCLAST: Does exposure to depleted uranium effect their psychological 
background when they come home?


MORET: Depleted uranium are these particles that form at very high 
temperatures. They are uranium oxides that are insoluble. They are at 
least 100 times smaller than a white blood cell, so when the soldiers 
breathe, they inhale them. The particles go through the nose, go through 
the olfactory and into the brain, and it messes up their cognitive 
abilities, thought processes.
It damages their mood-control mechanism in the brain. Four soldiers at 
Fort Bragg came back from Afghanistan, and within two months, those four 
had murdered their wives. This is part of the damage to the brain from the 
radiation and the particles.
The soldiers from Gulf War I in a group of 67 soldiers who came back, they 
had DU in their equipment, in their clothes, in their bodies, in their 
semen, and they had normal babies before they went over there to war. They 
came back, and the VA did a study. Of 251 Gulf War I veterans in 
Mississippi, in 67 percent of them, thier babies born after the war were 
deemed to have severe birth defects. They had brains missing, arms and 
legs missing, organs missing. They were born without eyes. They had 
horrible blood diseases. It’s horrific.
If you want to look at something, Life magazine did a photo essay which is 
still on the Internet. It’s called “The Tiny Victims of Desert Storm.” You 
should look at that — oh, my God, the post-Gulf War babies playing with 
their brothers and sisters who are normal.
Basically, it’s like smoking crack, only you’re smoking radioactive crack. 
It goes straight into the blood stream. It’s carried all throughout the 
body into the bones, the bone marrow, the brain. It goes into the fetus. 
It’s a systemic poison and a radiological poison.


ICONOCLAST: What about the people in the United States that are here? You 
say that DU is being mixed and spread globally?


MORET: Yes, it’s being mixed globally. We’re getting secondary smoke. It’s 
the secondary smoke effect. You know the people who inhabit a room with 
smokers? They are getting that secondary smoke, and so are we.


ICONOCLAST: Is that secondary smoke getting thicker as we speak?


MORET: Yeah, the concentration of the depleted uranium particles in the 
atmosphere all around the globe is increasing. There are indications that 
the U.S. will go in June and bomb the heck out of Iran. We’re monitoring 
the U.S. Army ammunition factories. They have very large orders for those 
huge bunker buster bombs that have 5,000 lbs. of DU in the warhead.


ICONOCLAST: So the prognosis for America isn’t really good?


MORET: No, it’s really bad.


ICONOCLAST: And if this continues then?


MORET: It’s going to kill off the world’s population. It already is, and 
it doesn’t just effect people. It effects all living systems. The plants, 
the animals, the bacteria. It effects everything.


ICONOCLAST: So the things that we eat for instance, if they have DU in 
them, then we’ll just get it in our systems, and so we’re polluting the 
oceans, so that could effect all marine life?


MORET: Yes, it’s in the air, water, and soil. The half-life of DU, Uranium 
238, is 4.5 billion years the age of the Earth.


ICONOCLAST: With the damage that’s been done to this point, can we turn 
back? We can’t clean it up?


MORET: There’s no way to clean it up. What happens is these tiny particles 
float around the Earth. There are still plutonium and uranium floating 
around the Earth from bomb testing. These particles are so tiny that 
molecules bumping into them keep them lofted in the air, and so the only 
way for them to get out of the atmosphere is rain, snow, fog, pollution, 
which will clear them out of the air and deposit them in the environment. 
What happens is the surface of these particles gets wetted by the moisture 
in the air. They come down and land on stuff and stick to it like a glue. 
You can’t ever get the particles off whatever they’re sticking to because 
have you ever put a drop of water on a microscope slide and then put 
another one on top of it? Can you pull those apart?


ICONOCLAST: No.


MORET: Okay, that’s the same effect that happens to radioactive particles. 
Once they are removed from the atmosphere, they stick to any surfaces they 
land on. In a way they are removed from circulation from the atmosphere. 
You can’t wash them off. If it keeps raining or they’re in a creek, you 
know, if they’re on rocks or stones or something in a creek, they won’t 
even wash off.
You didn’t know it was this bad, did you?


ICONOCLAST: No, I knew it was bad, but I thought it was fairly isolated.


MORET: No. What is over there (in Iraq) is over here in about four days. I 
don’t know if you followed Chernobyl. That big bubble of radiation went 
around and around the world, but this is dust. It becomes a part of 
atmospheric dust. Like the dust storm you saw in that photo, it goes 
everywhere.


ICONOCLAST: Is it in the upper levels of the atmosphere or the lower 
levels?


MORET: It’s in lower orbital space.
They brought the Mir spacecraft back down to Earth when they got done 
using it, and there was something called a space midge which covered the 
electronics on the outside of the spacecraft and protected it from 
radiation that comes from the sun because electronics are real vulnerable 
to radiation. They analyzed the surface of that space net and found 
uranium and uranium decayed products which they said came from atmospheric 
testing or burned up spacecraft with nuclear materials or nuclear reactors 
on board. Uranium can also come from supernovas, but they thought that the 
most likely sources were atmospheric testing and the nuclear materials we 
put in space.


ICONOCLAST: Essentially then, you’re saying that we’re conducting a 
nuclear war.


MORET: Yes, and that’s exactly what it is. We’ve conducted four nuclear 
wars since 1991. Yeah, these are nuclear wars. DU is a nuclear weapon.


ICONOCLAST: From the point of view of a scientist, what needs to happen to 
correct this?


MORET: Well, we need to stop the use of it. We’ve built an international 
movement to stop the use, the manufacture, the storage, the sales, and the 
deployment of depleted uranium weapons.


ICONOCLAST: Are the munitions we sell to other countries contained with 
depleted uranium?


MORET: We have. In 1968 the first depleted uranium weapons systems that we 
found a patent for suddenly appeared in the U.S. patent office. It was for 
the Navy. It was sort of a Gatling gun style weapon system that you 
mounted on ships. It rapidly fires like 2,500 bullets a minute. It’s over 
3,000 now. They’ve improved the design. Then in 1973, we gave depleted 
uranium weapons systems to the Israelis and supervised their use. They 
used them in the Arab-Israeli war and completely wiped out the Arabs in 
five days. Then the show was on the road. That was the first actual 
battlefield demonstration of this new weapon system.
Hughes Aircraft developed the full-length system which is for the Navy. 
That’s the Gatling gun system. They still use it. That was produced in 
1974 and tested. Within six months the U.S. government had sold the DU 
weapons system to 12 entities which included many branches of the U.S. 
military and other counties. We’ve sold DU weapons systems to about — we 
don’t know exactly for sure — it’s been about 12 or 17 countries. The good 
news is that normally such a weapons system that effective would have been 
sold to 80, 100, or 120 countries by now. But because of the radiological, 
biological, and environmental hazard, countries were not only afraid to 
buy it, the ones who did buy it are afraid to use it. The only countries 
we know that have used DU are Britain, the U.S., and Israel.
The United Nations in 1996 passed a resolution that depleted uranium 
weapons are weapons of mass destruction, and they are illegal under all 
international laws and treaties.
In 2001, the European Parliament passed a resolution on DU. What happened 
is that the NATO forces went into Yugoslavia in 1998 and ’99 and flew 
39,000 bombing runs and completely bombed Yugoslavia into radioactive 
rubble. Germany and the U.S. made the most money on the destruction of 
Yugoslavia, and they made sure that countries that didn’t know about the 
DU, that the peacekeepers from those countries like from Italy and 
Portugal, were sent to the most contaminated regions in Yugoslavia. 
Germans and Americans didn’t send their own troops into those areas. They 
were in the least contaminated areas. These poor soldiers from other 
countries came back and died within weeks or in a couple of days or 
months. The parents in Portugal and Italy are furious and went to the 
Parliament and media, and there was just a huge media storm of articles 
about DU.
The cat was out of the bag because of the 1998 NATO invasion of 
Yugoslavia. The cat was out of the bag, but Japanese troops have been sent 
into Somawa. They’re self-defense forces. It was the most contaminated 
area where the heaviest fighting happened in Iraq. We can expect those 
soldiers to be really, really sick.


ICONOCLAST: What about Iraq itself? What’s been done thus far?


MORET: It’s uninhabitable. The whole country. Yugoslavia, Iraq, and 
Afghanistan are completely uninhabitable.


ICONOCLAST: But people live there, so they’re going to live there 
suffering?


MORET: Well, you can see from the birth defects and the illnesses that it 
is pretty severe. Each year the number of birth defects and illnesses will 
rise because of the total contamination levels in all living things will 
increase because they are breathing that air and drinking water and eating 
the food from contaminated soils. It’s just a slow death sentence. The 
same with Yugoslavia and Afghanistan.
Depleted uranium is a very, very, very effective biological weapon. This 
is the primary purpose for using it. Marion Falk (a retired chemical 
physicist who built nuclear bombs for more than 20 years at Lawrence 
Livermore lab), who is the Manhattan Project scientist I work with, taught 
me pretty much everything about radiation and particles and DU. He said 
the purpose of weapons used by the military is not only to injure and kill 
the enemy soldiers, but the purpose is to kill, maim, and disease the 
civilian population because it reduces the productivity of a country and 
pretty soon a lot of their resources are going to be used for taking care 
of sick people. They will have fewer and fewer healthy workers.
Of course, once you cause mutation in the DNA, that damage is passed on to 
future generations of that affected person or animal or plant. DNA does 
not repair itself.


ICONOCLAST: So the mutations would be probably destructive moreso than 
constructive.


MORET: Oh, the mutations are causing those birth defects.


ICONOCLAST: They’re not evolutionary diseases?


MORET: No, they are evolutionary. They are inherited by all future 
generations and passed on. It’s like if you have red hair and all of your 
future generations will have that gene.


ICONOCLAST: So if I had a precondition to heart disease because of the 
radiation, then the generation that would come after me would have the 
same problem?


MORET: Well, if you damage the cell or parts of the cell or functioning of 
cells, that doesn’t necessarily damage the DNA. There are two kinds of 
damage: one damages the cells of the living organism, and that may not be 
passed on, but if you damage the DNA in the egg or the sperm, that is 
passed on to all future generations.


ICONOCLAST: So the guys coming back from the war, their sperm is probably 
going to be —


MORET: Damaged. Yes. They also have depleted uranium in their semen. When 
they’re intimate with their partners, they internally contaminate them 
with depleted uranium. The women become sick themselves. They have 
depleted uranium in their bodies, and there is something called burning 
syndrome. Just absolutely horrible. You can read about it in an article by 
David Rose in the December Vanity Fair. It’s on the Internet.
A friend of mine is the widow of a Canadian Gulf War veteran. David Rose 

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