AW: [norm-tenorm] AW: [ RadSafe ] Fwd: What is Depleted Uranium?

Sun Jun 5 23:42:53 CEST 2005

Dear collegues and friends,

I have some problems again to understand this Mitchell Davis. First of all I
cannot see any reason for his outburst of bad language, which seems not to
be the language of an educated scientist or health physicist. Secondly,
nobody can apologize for something I, Franz Schoenhofer, am responsible for
and the absolut very last person I would authorize for doing it would be
this subject. This Mitchell Davis seems to have some problems also in this
case with logic and perception. I, Franz Schoenhofer, do not apologize, I
rather belief, that my forwarding might help persons on the lists who
consider to take into consideration his "courses", to make a decision. I
would never pay any money to somebody who uses this language without any
reason for whatever. 

If this Mitchell Davis wants to apologize anything then it should be to the
list members that he uses this language, not even to me, because I would not
accept any apology, because this person has sent in the past several very
similar postings to lists I am subscribed to. 

If he (nobody else has done this before) desires, that his unacceptable and
unexcusable posts either to me personally or to any list should not be
forwarded to whom ever, he has to refrain from them. His threat of "legal
actions" only makes me laugh.   

Anyway he is banned from now on from my incoming e-mails and I hope that he
will be closely monitored by the list owners. First of all it is not the
task of either list to promote commercial advertising. This subject has to
my recollection never contributed anything except advertising his business,
so he has violated the list rules. He has used the list and my private
address from list traffic for his unacceptable postings both to me and the
lists - another violation. To put the blame on me is therefore totally
unjustified. 

To sign his message with "respectfully" is sheer mockery when regarding the
language of his messages to me.  

Since I will not receive in the future any of his intended offences I will
not be able to send any replies to either list - so nobody (Phil!) needs to
be afraid of receiving any one in the future.  

Best wishes to everybody

Franz

Franz Schoenhofer
PhD, MR iR
Habicherg. 31/7
A-1160 Vienna
AUSTRIA
phone -43-0699-1168-1319

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] Im
> Auftrag von Mitchell Davis
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 02. Juni 2005 05:42
> An: norm-tenorm at yahoogroups.com; RADSAFE
> Betreff: Re: [norm-tenorm] AW: [ RadSafe ] Fwd: What is Depleted Uranium?
> 
> Colleagues:
> 
> I apologize for Franz's lapse in judgment.  I sent a message to him to his
> personal email.  It is he who chose to "broadcast" it to the associated
> lists.  It is my commitment to keep any personal issues we have with each
> other private.  If he chooses to broadcast them to the lists, it is his
> decision and his decision alone.
> 
> Respectfully,
> 
> Mitchell W. Davis, RRPT
> Health Physicist
> Radiation Protection Consultants
> 432-697-3523
> 432-349-4824 (Cell)
> radiation at cox.net
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Franz Schönhofer" <franz.schoenhofer at chello.at>
> To: "'Mitchell Davis'" <radiation at cox.net>; "RADSAFE" <radsafe at radlab.nl>;
> "NORM-TENORM (NORM-TENORM)" <norm-tenorm at yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 6:56 PM
> Subject: [norm-tenorm] AW: [ RadSafe ] Fwd: What is Depleted Uranium?
> 
> 
> Is there anybody at RADSAFE or NORM-TENORM who could explain to me the
> meaning of this message which was sent to me in response to a message to
> Norm Cohen at the RADSAFE list, critizising a "geoscientist" who tells the
> world about "What is Depleted Uranium?".
> 
> Mr. Davis Mitchell has earlier sent several insulting messages about me to
> the RADSAFE-list. He obviously only uses both lists to advertise his
> "courses" on NORM. Whether such a person is  suitable or certified to hold
> courses on NORM and radiation protection is a question open to anybody who
> reads his advertisments. Both RADSAFE and NORM-TENORM lists are not
> intended
> for advertising "money making activities".
> 
> It is of course up to the list-owners to make a decision, but I personally
> would believe, that such a person should be banned from participation on
> the
> lists, since he only distributes "money making activities" and insults,
> far
> beyond any flaming. He does not make any other contribution to the lists.
> I
> would not be surprised, if his insults were related to intoxication by
> ethanol, I have no other explanation, somebody might have.
> 
> Mr. Davis: If you regard forwarding your insults to me to other list
> participants as "undermining your money making activities" I would
> recommend
> that you do not send any insults to me, neither through the lists or to me
> personally. I recommend not to use the internet when you obviously are
> impaired by the use of certain chemicals. For your law suits you are
> threatening me with I wish you good luck. You can only loose the money,
> which you obviously do not earn with your "business".
> 
> With my best regards,
> 
> Franz
> 
> Franz Schoenhofer
> PhD, MR iR
> Habicherg. 31/7
> A-1160 Vienna
> AUSTRIA
> phone -43-0699-1168-1319
> 
> 
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Mitchell Davis [mailto:radiation at cox.net]
> > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 02. Juni 2005 00:58
> > An: Franz Schönhofer
> > Betreff: Re: [ RadSafe ] Fwd: What is Depleted Uranium?
> >
> > But Franz...you ARE an idiot!!!!...I've know this for years.  And if you
> > try
> > to undermine my money making activities in the future, the law suit will
> > be
> > coming your way you piece of S++T!!!!!
> >
> > Mitchell W. Davis, RRPT
> > Health Physicist
> > Radiation Protection Consultants
> > 432-697-3523
> > 432-349-4824 (Cell)
> > radiation at cox.net
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Franz Schönhofer" <franz.schoenhofer at chello.at>
> > To: "'Norm Cohen'" <ncohen12 at comcast.net>; <cpjlist at yahoogroups.com>;
> > <know_nukes at yahoogroups.com>; <radsafe at radlab.nl>
> > Cc: <du-list at yahoogroups.com>;
> > <the_progressive_resistance at yahoogroups.com>;
> > "'du-watch.yahoogroups.com'" <du-watch at yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 2:05 PM
> > Subject: AW: [ RadSafe ] Fwd: What is Depleted Uranium?
> >
> >
> > > Norman,
> > >
> > > Thank you for telling me, "What is Depleted Uranium". I have studied
> > > chemistry for 11 years before graduation as a PhD, my PhD work was in
> > > radiochemistry. I have spent decades in radioactivity environmental
> > > protection, I have been in the forefront of the Austrian Chernobyl
> > > Mitigation and also wrote the official report on the effect of the
> > > Chernobyl
> > > accident on Austria. Thank you that you forward to me "What is
> Depleted
> > > Uranium". Therefore I think it is somewhat challenging to receive from
> > you
> > > the interesting lecture of a geoscientist, who works around the clock
> (I
> > > personally worked during the heydays of the Chernobyl accident up to
> 20
> > > hours, but not more), who is touring the world and living on its
> > obviously
> > > profitable anti-nuclear shows. You want some more examples?
> > >
> > > To put it straight: I have not studied chemistry, radiochemistry and
> > have
> > > not acquired a PHD in radiochemistry, worked for decades in this field
> > to
> > > be
> > > told by a geoscientist, whose only credential seems to be a
> > "whistleblower
> > > acitivty", that I am an idiot. Anybody else on RADSAFE to feel like
> > this?
> > >
> > >
> > > Nice, that you distribute what you receive, but I still think that you
> > > personally should be intellectually more able to distinguish between
> > such
> > > shit (sorry, I should have written s++t) and facts.
> > >
> > >
> > > Norman, in spite of our very harsh controversies in the past I still
> > > thought
> > > that you might be able to sort out s--t from serious messages.
> > >
> > > Best wishes to you and your family,
> > >
> > > Franz
> > >
> > > Franz Schoenhofer
> > > PhD, MR iR
> > > Habicherg. 31/7
> > > A-1160 Vienna
> > > AUSTRIA
> > > phone -43-0699-1168-1319
> > >
> > >----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
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