[ RadSafe ] Re: Radioactive Material Stolen While Man In DonutShop

[Boing, Lawrence E.]

Can anyone on Radsafe share or shed light on how (if any) law
enforcement or regulatory agencies agencies or both go about tracking
down such devices - hit the local pawn shops, visit scrap yards, what?
Thanks

Lawrence E. Boing
Argonne National Laboratory
9700 South Cass Avenue
Argonne, IL  60439

P-630.252.6729
F-630.252.7577
lboing at anl.gov
http://www.td.anl.gov/D&D/
http://www.orau.gov/ddsc/



-----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] On
Behalf Of John Jacobus
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 11:01 AM
To: MOSHEK; 'Jose Julio Rozental'; TConley at kdhe.state.ks.us;
radsafe at radlab.nl
Subject: RE: [ RadSafe ] Re: Radioactive Material Stolen While Man In
DonutShop

Well, sometimes if they cannot steal the car, they will take what they
can, like the radio, stereo player, tools, moisture gauge, etc.  It they
think it has value, they may take it.  Obviously if something is chained
or locked down like a gauge or tool box, they will take it.

--- MOSHEK <MosheK at sviva.gov.il> wrote:
> Hello Group,
> 
> In Israel we faced several theft incidents. Most of them were of 
> moisture/density gauges and one of radiography source. There is a 
> clear cut difference between intended  theft of the gauge and the 
> vehicle. When a moisture/density  gauge was taken out of its casing in

> the car, and the car left untouched - definitely the gauge was the 
> target. When a car containing a gauge was stolen, usually the car was 
> the target.
> The problem is that you
> can not be sure about it unless the gauge was found/returned and the 
> car not, which may be, or not,  some time in the future.
> Meantime you have to
> assume that the source was the target and be ready to all possible 
> scenarios.
> 
> Moshe Keren
> Ministry of the Environment
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jose Julio Rozental
> [mailto:joseroze at netvision.net.il]
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 12:52 PM
> To: TConley at kdhe.state.ks.us; radsafe at radlab.nl
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Re: Radioactive Material Stolen While Man In 
> DonutShop
> 
> 
> The main question is what you have appointed: "The violation here was 
> that the driver left the truck running unattended and lost control of 
> the ammo box when he went to the donut shop."
> 
> Comment:
> 
> There are users that every day transport radioactive materials in 
> higher activity, as the case of industrial radiography.
> During my activities in
> Brazil I have registered two cases. In one of them the thief abandoned

> the equipment in one site and in the second he threw out the equipment

> in the River. Hopefully there was not damage to equipments and in both

> cases were applied penalties. This fact is used in training  as 
> example of high violation during transport, to emphasize the necessity

> of  imperative request during transport to follow procedures. In 
> Brazil also for such transport it is requested that a driver needs to 
> have an assistant for emergencies situation.
> 
> 
> 
> Jose Julio Rozental
> 
> joseroze at netvision.net.il
> 
> Israel
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <TConley at kdhe.state.ks.us>
> To: <radsafe at radlab.nl>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 6:46 PM
> Subject: [ RadSafe ] Re: Radioactive Material Stolen While Man In 
> Donut Shop
> 
> 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >Now someone pleeeeeeeease tell me what the hell a
> rad materials was doing
> > in an ammo box >in the first place? Think the
> driver kind of violated some
> > DOT Laws?
> >
> > Ammo boxes are an approved type A package and are
> frequently used to
> > transport nuclear medicine doses from a
> radiopharmacy to a client hospital
> > or clinic.  This is a perfectly legitimate method
> to transport radioactive
> > material.  You might also be interested to know
> that certain brief cases
> > are also commonly approved for transport too.
> >
> > The violation here was that the driver left the
> truck running unattended
> > and lost control of the ammo box when he went to
> the donut shop.
> >
> > Thomas A. Conley, RRPT, CHP
> > Section Chief, Radiation and Asbestos Control Kansas Department of 
> > Health and Environment
> > Phone: (785) 296-1565
> > email: tconley at kdhe.state.ks.us
> >
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-- John
John Jacobus, MS
Certified Health Physicist
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