[ RadSafe ] Re: Radioactive Material Stolen While Man In DonutShop

Thu Mar 10 18:25:16 CET 2005

My impression is that missing material is reported in 
the news media.  When people find objects that have
radiation symbols on them, they report them to the
local police.  I don't think the police actually go
around and look for stolen devices.  I doubt the NRC
does not have any searching.  They fine the licensee
for not securing the device.

--- "Boing, Lawrence E." <lboing at anl.gov> wrote:

>  
> Can anyone on Radsafe share or shed light on how (if
> any) law
> enforcement or regulatory agencies agencies or both
> go about tracking
> down such devices - hit the local pawn shops, visit
> scrap yards, what?
> Thanks
> 
> Lawrence E. Boing
> Argonne National Laboratory
> 9700 South Cass Avenue
> Argonne, IL  60439
> 
> P-630.252.6729
> F-630.252.7577
> lboing at anl.gov
> http://www.td.anl.gov/D&D/
> http://www.orau.gov/ddsc/
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl
> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] On
> Behalf Of John Jacobus
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 11:01 AM
> To: MOSHEK; 'Jose Julio Rozental';
> TConley at kdhe.state.ks.us;
> radsafe at radlab.nl
> Subject: RE: [ RadSafe ] Re: Radioactive Material
> Stolen While Man In
> DonutShop
> 
> Well, sometimes if they cannot steal the car, they
> will take what they
> can, like the radio, stereo player, tools, moisture
> gauge, etc.  It they
> think it has value, they may take it.  Obviously if
> something is chained
> or locked down like a gauge or tool box, they will
> take it.
> 
> --- MOSHEK <MosheK at sviva.gov.il> wrote:
> > Hello Group,
> > 
> > In Israel we faced several theft incidents. Most
> of them were of 
> > moisture/density gauges and one of radiography
> source. There is a 
> > clear cut difference between intended  theft of
> the gauge and the 
> > vehicle. When a moisture/density  gauge was taken
> out of its casing in
> 
> > the car, and the car left untouched - definitely
> the gauge was the 
> > target. When a car containing a gauge was stolen,
> usually the car was 
> > the target.
> > The problem is that you
> > can not be sure about it unless the gauge was
> found/returned and the 
> > car not, which may be, or not,  some time in the
> future.
> > Meantime you have to
> > assume that the source was the target and be ready
> to all possible 
> > scenarios.
> > 
> > Moshe Keren
> > Ministry of the Environment
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jose Julio Rozental
> > [mailto:joseroze at netvision.net.il]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 12:52 PM
> > To: TConley at kdhe.state.ks.us; radsafe at radlab.nl
> > Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Re: Radioactive Material
> Stolen While Man In 
> > DonutShop
> > 
> > 
> > The main question is what you have appointed: "The
> violation here was 
> > that the driver left the truck running unattended
> and lost control of 
> > the ammo box when he went to the donut shop."
> > 
> > Comment:
> > 
> > There are users that every day transport
> radioactive materials in 
> > higher activity, as the case of industrial
> radiography.
> > During my activities in
> > Brazil I have registered two cases. In one of them
> the thief abandoned
> 
> > the equipment in one site and in the second he
> threw out the equipment
> 
> > in the River. Hopefully there was not damage to
> equipments and in both
> 
> > cases were applied penalties. This fact is used in
> training  as 
> > example of high violation during transport, to
> emphasize the necessity
> 
> > of  imperative request during transport to follow
> procedures. In 
> > Brazil also for such transport it is requested
> that a driver needs to 
> > have an assistant for emergencies situation.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Jose Julio Rozental
> > 
> > joseroze at netvision.net.il
> > 
> > Israel
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <TConley at kdhe.state.ks.us>
> > To: <radsafe at radlab.nl>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 6:46 PM
> > Subject: [ RadSafe ] Re: Radioactive Material
> Stolen While Man In 
> > Donut Shop
> > 
> > 
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >Now someone pleeeeeeeease tell me what the hell
> a
> > rad materials was doing
> > > in an ammo box >in the first place? Think the
> > driver kind of violated some
> > > DOT Laws?
> > >
> > > Ammo boxes are an approved type A package and
> are
> > frequently used to
> > > transport nuclear medicine doses from a
> > radiopharmacy to a client hospital
> > > or clinic.  This is a perfectly legitimate
> method
> > to transport radioactive
> > > material.  You might also be interested to know
> > that certain brief cases
> > > are also commonly approved for transport too.
> > >
> > > The violation here was that the driver left the
> > truck running unattended
> > > and lost control of the ammo box when he went to
> > the donut shop.
> > >
> > > Thomas A. Conley, RRPT, CHP
> > > Section Chief, Radiation and Asbestos Control
> Kansas Department of 
> > > Health and Environment
> > > Phone: (785) 296-1565
> > > email: tconley at kdhe.state.ks.us
> > >
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"A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy
enough people to make it worth the effort." Herm Albright

-- John
John Jacobus, MS
Certified Health Physicist
e-mail:  crispy_bird at yahoo.com

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