RE: HPS HomePage

["Kleck, Jeff" <JKleck@OS.Varian.COM>]

Marvin, I'm thrilled to see that you are on-line. But I think you are being 
a little defensive. If you put my response in context with the posting to 
which it was responding, I believe that you will see that it was not 
negative at all. In fact, it was a call to arms, embracing change  and an 
optimistic view of the future.

With regard to your ending remark (see below),

"Sending messages out on the internet that we don't do anything for our 
members is being part of the
problem."

you are wrong! Open and frank discussions are what our society, and any 
organization, need the most. They are indeed part of the solution, and the 
internet is the best place for them. If my remarks are without substance, my 
ramblings will quickly be refutted by an outslaught of e-mail putting me 
straight. Whatever the case, a meaningful and frank discussion by our 
membership will be the deciding factor. Democracy in action!

Regards, Jeff
 ----------
From: mgoldman
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: RE: HPS HomePage
Date: Monday, May 15, 1995 10:00AM

>Jeff Kleck has hit the nail right on the head.
>
>Here is one CHP, been a member of the HPS, by and large since 1968 or
>so, that strongly agrees with Jeff.
>
>Let's get with it.  How about an open discussion at the Boston meeting
>followed by the HPS Directors discussing this important issue.
>
>Imagine Science Teachers having on line access to information about
>radiation, supplemented with Chapter workshops!!!!
>
>
>George Anastas, Past President
>Sierra Nevada Chapter (also San Diego Chapter and Northeastern New
>York Chapter)
>
>> Date:          Mon, 15 May 95 08:52:15 -0500
>> Reply-to:      radsafe@romulus.ehs.uiuc.edu
>> From:          "Kleck, Jeff" <JKleck@OS.Varian.COM>
>> To:            Multiple recipients of list <radsafe@romulus.ehs.uiuc.edu>
>> Subject:       RE: HPS HomePage
>
>>
>> Setting up a Home Page, as you may know, takes time, effort, and some 
real
>> planning. I know, because I've been involved with groups that have done 
it
>> the right way and the wrong way. Also, this is not the kind of job that
>> should be left to the discretion of any particular member of our society.
>> Rather, I suggest that the HPS reconsider, and hire a professional to do
the
>> job. I think our society has a reputation for being excessively frugal, 
and
>> I do not know of a single instance in which it has benefited its members.
>> Also, the server should be located and supported at HPS headquarters, not
at
>> a member's institution.
>>
>> Incidentally, I get the impression that our leadership is not aware of 
the
>> importance of the internet, that, in fact, it recently grew by 1/3 in the
>> course of a single month. That the needed public awareness and direct
public
>> communication our profession has touted for so many years is right here,
and
>> right now. Get with it!
>>  ----------
>> From: loesch
>> To: Multiple recipients of list
>> Subject: HPS HomePage
>> Date: Monday, May 15, 1995 7:23AM
>>
>>         Dear RadSafers:
>>
>>         Marvin Goldman, President of the HPS, is looking for anyone who
>>         would be interested in setting up a HomePage for the HPS.  If you
>>         have the time to donate and access to a http server on which to
>>         post the page, please contact me either via email or phone/fax.
>>
>>         Bob Loesch
>>
>>         ******************************************************
>>         * Robert M. Loesch         U.S. Department of Energy *
>>         * DOELAP Administrator     EH-52, GTN, 270 CC        *
>>         *                          19901 Germantown Road     *
>>         * (301) 903-4443   voice   Germantown, MD 20874-0963 *
>>         * (301) 903-7773   fax                               *
>>         *           email: loesch@viper.eh.doe.gov           *
>>         ******************************************************
>>            Random number generation is too important a task
>>                       to be left to chance!
>>
>> The preceeding message was NOT reviewed by my employer and
>> therefore represents MY OPINION ONLY and does not in any way
>> represent the policies or opinions of the U.S. Department of Energy.
>>
>>
>George Anastas, M.P.H., P.E., C.H.P., Director
>Environmental Health and Safety and
>University Radiation Safety Officer
>California State University, Sacramento
>6000 J Street
>Sacramento, CA  95819-6002
>Telephone 916/278-6456
>FAX 916/278-5960
>
>"The views expressed herein are those of the
>author and do not necessarily reflect the views
>of California State University, Sacramento,
>California State University, the State of
>California or any of its political subdivisions.
>This posting is disclaimed."
Dear Radsafers:
Give me a break!  I promised when elected that I would get us into the
appropriate level of cyberspace.  As this mail is showing, we are on it,
even though not as fast as some of you wish.  You have my promise that I
will do all I can to see to it that HPS is "on-line" before I leave office.

As to whether we are "too frugal" and not doing anything for our members,
there may be more than one view on that.  If you have a specific problem,
share it with me and I'll try to be helpful.  I was elected to be part of
the solution, not part of the problem.  Sending messages out on the
internet that we don't do anything for our members is being part of the
problem.  Let's get positive, we have some challenging times ahead!
Marvin Goldman,
President, Health Physics Society