Re: Re[2]: Error Condition Re: infrared

[Jeff Eichorst <u112237@lanl.gov>]

Like putting a spoon in a cup of coffee to cool it faster?  Could be.
Sounds reasonable to me.  However, if the miracle thaw is in fact made of
the same ceramic material that I spoke of in my first Radsafe message, the
higher thermal conductivity would not explain how the body wraps and
comforters that have the same material woven into the fabric heat the body
as opposed to conducting heat away from the body.



At 04:38 PM 3/10/97 -0600, you wrote:
>Is it possible that the miracle thaw is supposed to work because it is a better
>thermal conductor than ceramics and hence conducts heat away from the "meat"
>faster than a plate? 
>_______________________________________________________________________________
>Subject: Re: Error Condition Re: infrared
>From:    radsafe@romulus.ehs.uiuc.edu at mgdestmx01
>Date:    10/3/97  1:41 PM
>
>That's interesting.  I had not heard that.  I have seen (in person)
>demonstrations (of material that the Miracle Thaw is supposed to be made of)
>which showed ice melting quite a bit faster on this plate (made of the
>ceramic material) than on a conventional plate.  You could then touch the
>plate and feel that the temperature of the plate with the melted ice cube
>was significantly lower than that of the conventional plate where the ice
>cube was still melting.
>
>Honestly, this is the extent of what I know about the Miracle Thaw and the
like.
>
>At 12:20 PM 3/10/97 -0600, you wrote:
>>Re: Miracle Thaw
>>
>>I remember seeing those being advertised....I also remember a news 
>>magazine (20/20 or one of those) doing an impromtu study and finding 
>>that the "Miracle Thaw" didn't thaw things any faster than leaving 
>>them on the counter......Of course, that brought up the whole 
>>discussion of the risks of leaving meat, etc, to defrost outside of 
>>the refrigerator.... but that's another issue!
>>
>>Ron Amoling
>>amolingr@joslab.harvard.edu
>>
>>
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