Re: Soc. Sec. # on Official Records

[Jeff Eichorst <u112237@lanl.gov>]

Brent,
As I stated, the IRS has its own rules that pertain to SSN use.  It is for
Social Security and other tax purposes that employers need a SSN.  That is
why I included IRS in my previous statement.  This thread has also discussed
the legal requirement to track exposures by SSN.  However, just because
payroll folks have a SSN, and another department asks for it, payroll does
not have the right to disclose it.  It is not for the people in payroll to
decide whether the folks in the print shop or the cafeteria have a valid
need for my SSN. 

Jeff

At 01:26 PM 6/30/97 -0500, you wrote:
>I'm a little confused by this statement.  Does "...deny services on the
>grounds of refusal to disclose a SSN..."  equate to denial of employment? 
>I can't see working if I'm not going to be paid, and if I'm not mistaken,
>if you're an American citizen, you have to supply your SSN in order to draw
>a paycheck.  That being said, couldn't the folks in dosimetry just call the
>folks in payroll and obtain the refusers SSN?  Would there be something
>specifically illegal with that?  Is payroll duty-bound not to supply the
>workers SSN to dosimetry?  To me, this would deem the discussion on this
>subject kind of moot.
>
>Of course, normally I wouldn't have jumped in on this discussion, but I"m
>guessing the listserv will be a little slow this week.
>
>-Brent Rogers
>mailto: brogers@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
>
>
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>> From: Jeff Eichorst <u112237@lanl.GOV>
>> To: Multiple recipients of list <radsafe@romulus.ehs.uiuc.EDU>
>> Subject: Re: Soc. Sec. # on Official Records
>> Date: Monday, June 30, 1997 11:34 AM
>> 
>> Bob,
>> What you say is true, but nonetheless, these organizations that you
>mention
>> can not require you to use your SSN for these purposes (except maybe the
>> military, who for all intents and purposes owns you).  It is illegal to
>deny
>> services on the grounds of refusal to disclose a SSN.  Of course SSN and
>IRS
>> are exempt.
>> 
>> Jeff Eichorst
>> 
>
>
>
Jeff Eichorst
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