Re[2]: SCIENCE

["Gerald Falo"<gerald_falo_at_chppm7__apgea@chppm-ccmail.apgea.army.mil>]

     Hello all,
     
     I for one support most of what Fritz had to say in his latest missive. 
     
     The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle and the fact that Bell's theorem 
     (I think.) in quantum mechanics rule out local hidden variables.  So, 
     on the face of it the first paragraph below is incorrect.
     
     Science and the scientific method are procedures or philosophy 
     concerned with the study of nature.  God, if one does indeed exist, is 
     by definition beyond and above nature, and hence, beyond the reach of 
     science.  Science does not deal with the study of the supernatural.
     
     The rest of the second paragraph does not seem to be appropriate 
     material for RADSAFE, and so I have no comment.
     
     Jerry Falo
     jer3ry@aol.com


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Subject: re: SCIENCE 
Author:  <radsafe@romulus.ehs.uiuc.edu > at internet-mail
Date:    8/17/98 2:25 PM


I disagree with the statements given by Fritz A. Seiler. Physics and science, 
in their purest form are the measure of the truth of nature. We simply do not 
have the perfect tools to measure all things. Therefore we can not presently 
measure, and thus know, the full and true relationship of all physical and 
scientific phenomenon.
     
I also disagree with the quotation at the end of Fritz's statements. In fact 
the most precious thing we have is GOD, who is the Perfect Scientist and 
Physicist. If we would only ask for God's guidance to find the truth we could 
discover things not even dreamed of on Star Trek. In my casual reading of the 
Bible I have used my imagination to discover things that have been known since 
the begining of time. For example, cloning was done to create Eve from Adams 
rib. If you "scientist" want to discover new and exciting discoveries, just 
read the Good Book, after all, nothing is new under the son.  
     
Thanks, John P. Hageman


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