RE: Material Security

[Glen.Vickers@ucm.com]

You say,"The state proposes to have your fire doors between labs alarm when
opened."

1.  Frequent alarms during the work day would desensitize people to the real
purpose of fire alarms.

2.  Who will hear the alarms when no one is there?  When a tree falls in the
forest and no one is there to here it, does it make a sound?... (had to
throw that in)  

An alarm shouldn't be necessary during normal work hours and ensuring all
materials are secure at the end of the day should be entirely reasonable.
There may well be times that no one is in the lab for short periods of time
with materials being accessible.  This is probably where the greatest risk
of procedural non-compliance would be.

Regulators, and people in general, often propose solutions to problems
without thinking of all of the resulting implications.  A reasonable
solution that can be adhered to consistently may well take a couple of
iterations to get it right.


Sincerely,
Glen Vickers
glen.vickers@ucm.com <mailto:glen.vickers@ucm.com> 


	-----Original Message-----
	From:	William A Fendt [SMTP:35346@UDel.Edu]
	Sent:	Monday, November 09, 1998 8:30 AM
	To:	Multiple recipients of list
	Subject:	Re: Material Security

	Your "security proposal" seems solid.  Why not go with it and dare
the
	regulators to find you in violation??  Bill Fendt U of DE
35346@udel.edu


	On Fri, 6 Nov 1998, Gregory M. Krause wrote:

	> I'm looking for comments on material security in a
University/Research
	> setting.  Our University's Medical School research wing has
laboratories
	> that are cannot be completely secured.  The door to the main hall
can be
	> locked, but each laboratory is connected to at least one of its
neighbors
	> by a fire door that cannot be locked.  Naturally the researchers
have used
	> the fire doors to establish suites of rooms, so they can go
between labs
	> without going into the main hall.  Our Agreement State regulators
however,
	> feel that we cannot adequately secure the labs, since we cannot
lock the
	> fire doors.  Our security proposal was to have all stock material
placed
	> in locked freezers/refrigerators/cabinets/etc., store all bulk
waste in
	> securely locked storage rooms, and lock laboratories when not
occupied.
	> The State wants more, but we're not sure where we want to go with
this.
	> The State suggested installing loud local alarms on the fire
doors, but
	> the researchers are opposed since they currently use the labs as
suites.
	> I've proposed limiting access to the entire floors, but the
professors
	> also have their offices attached to their labs and locking the
floors
	> would limit student access to the professors.  Naturally
completely
	> redesigning the building is out of the question.  Any ideas?
Please
	> e-mail responses to me at:  grekraus@badlands.nodak.edu
	> 
	> Thanks
	> 
	>
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