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RE: Green peace actions.
As a teacher of undergraduate students, I have spent a lifetime explaining
and teaching. There is a point at which "taking account of people's
emotional side" becomes pandering and ceases to be informative, or to inform
anyone. In the words of Emily Dickinson: "Opinions are fleeting, but the
truth lasts longer than the sun."
I appreciate the attempts to be nice and take people's emotions into
account, but at some point one has to say, this is the way it is and there's
plenty of evidence for that statement. No, one atom of plutonium doesn't
kill you, no matter what you may want to think, and so on.
I still think that the anti-nukes hold onto opinions that are comfortable
for them, and excuse the irrationality by emotion.
Clearly only my own opinion.
Ruth F. Weiner
Sandia National Laboratories
MS 0718, POB 5800
Albuquerque, NM 87185-0718
505-844-4791; fax 505-844-0244
rfweine@sandia.gov
-----Original Message-----
From: Minnema, Douglas [mailto:Douglas.Minnema@ns.doe.gov]
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 1999 8:23 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: RE: Green peace actions.
To Mike and everybody,
Mike has a good point here regarding the mindset of many members of the
public concerning nuclear issues. As luck would have it, many of the
comments Mike quotes here fell to me to respond to for the LANL
Site-Wide EIS Comment Response Document. It was actually a very
difficult time, with a fair amount of soul-searching, in order to write
a "responsive response" (if you would pardon the pun).
While the rhetoric may have actually originated with the activist
organizations, there are many individuals who believe it to be true,
mostly because it feeds their fears and concerns. As has been stated
often on this listserver, we in the industry have not always helped
things with our attempts to educate people without dealing with their
emotional side.
It is not fun to write such responses, but it is a real education. I
would suggest that we all take an opportunity sometime to take a letter
and try to write an honest response to it. You don't have to mail it to
anybody, just consider it a professional homework assignment.
Doug Minnema, CHP
Defense Programs
DOE
what few thoughts i have are truly my own.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Dempsey [SMTP:mdempsey@lanl.gov]
> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 1999 10:46 AM
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> Subject: Re: Green peace actions.
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> There is a distinct lack of reason when dealing with the anti-nuke
> forces. =
> I
> have been going to WIPP and LANL EIS hearings since 1989. I used to
> get=
> mad,
> but the rhetoric has mutated beyond the realm of the real to the
> surreal. I
> find the following quotes amusing maybe you will also...
>
> Mike Dempsey ESH-1 TA-55 LANL=20
>
> Testimony from the LANL SWEIS Hearing in Santa Fe 6/10/98.=20
>
> =93One atom of radiation can kill you=85.=94
>
> =93By the year 2000 all the world will be under one law, no one will
> any=
> better
> than anyone else and the DOE will be destroyed=85=94
>
> =93If I found out they were storing any nuclear waste at Los Alamos I
> would=
> have
> to move=85.=94
>
> When I moved to Santa Fe four years ago, I thought I had found heaven.
> Then=
> I
> found out about Los Alamos=85.=94
>
> =93All nuclear activities at Los Alamos must stop immediately, or the
> earth
> mother will destroy Los Alamos. If you need to consult me on how to
> do
> this=85..=94=20
>
> =93I am an artist, when I think of images of Los Alamos, all I get
> are real=
> bad
> images, and I want to create hateful images to represent you=85=94
>
> =93All petro-chemical, nuclear, military-industrial activities must
> stop
> immediately=85=94
>
> =93I thought this was a democracy. All the people hate nuclear
> weapons, why=
> are
> they still here?=94
>
> I can feel the radiation from Los Alamos attacking me=85.
>
>
>
> All opinions expressed here are my own, especially this one:
>
> Why worry about the WIPP leaking? In 10,000 years we will all be
> living on
> other planets...
>
>
>
>
> At 09:14 PM 1/14/99 -0600, you wrote:
> > Emil,
> >
> >Just a note to support what you said. When the Miami area was struck
> by
> >hurricane Andrew, the hurricane casued significant damage to the two
> fossil
> >fuel unit stacks at Turkey Point. One stack had to be completely
> >reconstructed. Turkey Point also has two nuke units. Green Peace=
> protested
> >that the nuke units should be shut down because there were cracks in
> the
> >stacks. The nuke units survived virtually unscathed. This is what a
> lack=
> of
> >education breeds.
> >
> >Diana Williams (WDCWILL123@aol.com)
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> There is a distinct lack of reason when dealing with the anti-nuke
> forces. I have been going to WIPP and LANL EIS hearings since
> 1989. I used to get mad, but the rhetoric has mutated beyond the
> realm of the real to the surreal. I find the following quotes
> amusing maybe you will also...<br>
> <br>
> Mike Dempsey ESH-1 TA-55 LANL <br>
> <br>
> Testimony from the LANL SWEIS Hearing in Santa Fe 6/10/98. <br>
> <br>
> =93One atom of radiation can kill you=85.=94<br>
> <br>
> =93By the year 2000 all the world will be under one law, no one will
> any
> better than anyone else and the DOE will be destroyed=85=94<br>
> <br>
> =93If I found out they were storing any nuclear waste at Los Alamos I
> would
> have to move=85.=94<br>
> <br>
> When I moved to Santa Fe four years ago, I thought I had found
> heaven. Then I found out about Los Alamos=85.=94<br>
> <br>
> =93All nuclear activities at Los Alamos must stop immediately, or the
> earth
> mother will destroy Los Alamos. If you need to consult me on how
> to
> do this=85..=94 <br>
> <br>
> =93I am an artist, when I think of images of Los Alamos, all I
> get
> are real bad images, and I want to create hateful images to represent
> you=85=94<br>
> <br>
> =93All petro-chemical, nuclear, military-industrial activities must
> stop
> immediately=85=94<br>
> <br>
> =93I thought this was a democracy. All the people hate nuclear
> weapons, why are they still here?=94<br>
> <br>
> I can feel the radiation from Los Alamos attacking me=85.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> All opinions expressed here are my own, especially this one:<br>
> <br>
> Why worry about the WIPP leaking? In 10,000 years we will all be
> living on other planets...<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> At 09:14 PM 1/14/99 -0600, you wrote:<br>
> > Emil,<br>
> ><br>
> >Just a note to support what you said. When the Miami area
> was
> struck by<br>
> >hurricane Andrew, the hurricane casued significant damage to the
> two
> fossil<br>
> >fuel unit stacks at Turkey Point. One stack had to be
> completely<br>
> >reconstructed. Turkey Point also has two nuke units.
> Green Peace protested<br>
> >that the nuke units should be shut down because there were cracks
> in
> the<br>
> >stacks. The nuke units survived virtually unscathed.
> This
> is what a lack of<br>
> >education breeds.<br>
> ><br>
> >Diana Williams (WDCWILL123@aol.com)<br>
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