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Re[3]: History of X-Rays
"Protecting their toys" isn't the issue. Teaching someone to think
for him/herself is the issue.
People are beginning to believe that "surfin' the internet" is
synonymous with research. That's why Radsafe gets questions along
the lines of "My professor gave me an assignment to find out about
XYZ; You guys are the experts...what's the answer?" Then the
responses are piled together, regurgitated, and called a research
paper. For those who are uninterested in expending effort, this
can be done without even coming close to comprehending the
material, and a lot of people are becoming very good at it.
The internet is a source for quick answers of highly variable
reliable (Radsafers of all people should know that!). For those
who know how to separate good information from garbage, it's a
valuable tool. Those who know how to think for themselves can
increase their knowledge with it.
But let's not kid ourselves that cruising web pages is "education",
or that it is teaching useful learning skills. That's sort of like
trying to obtain a degree in medicine by watching old episodes of
M*A*S*H.
For those who don't yet know how to learn on their own (which
unfortunately may include students all the way up to
college/university level), I agree fully with Ms. Weiner's
recommendation - tell them to go to the library, go to class and
pay attention to the instructor, take notes, STUDY for crying out
loud (now there's an unpopular word). Otherwise, all the "sharing"
of information in the world is just someone else doing their work
for them, which I believe is Ms. Weiner's concern (or to use her
exact words: "It's one thing to answer a specific question, and
another to be asked to do the legwork." I REALLY don't think she's
concerned that if she provides someone information, they might one
day know more than she does!)
Vincent King
vincent.king@doegjpo.com
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Subject: Re[2]: History of X-Rays
Author: "Jim Dunlap" <jim.dunlap@guardian.brooks.af.mil> at Internet
Date: 1/19/99 4:04 PM
Come on Prof, give them a break. People who are insecure (and I'm not
intimating you are one of them) protect their toys (info) by not sharing them.
People who are secure do all they can to be of help (It's called technology
transfer). Just be sure you acknowledge the info supplier's help somewhere.
The same logic applies to a supervisor. It's his/her role to do all they can to
prepare their subordinates to replace them by sharing key info with them. That
way, if the supervisor gets sick or happens to keel over dead (remember,we're
only one heartbeat from death), they'll be somewhat prepared to fill in for
him/her. Secondly, it keeps you on your toes since, if they are highly capable,
you have to hustle to stay one step ahead of them; if they're really better than
you, they should be allowed to bypass you. Thirdly, and perhaps most important
of all, by educating them (subordinates, supervisors, and your peers) they
become strong advocates of yours; you simply have to be willing to take the
chance that they might by-pass you. We all have to take risks; some take
greater risks than others. When we take too much risk (such as the case with
people who commit crimes, and get caught - If you can't do the time, don't
commit the crime), we may have to pay a high price for it. Nuff said.
Tell them to go to the library!! Throughout my whole career, even as a
Congressional Fellow, I used to get this kind of "please do my homework for
me" question and my redsponse (yes, I was a tough teacher) was, in effect,
"do it yourself." It's one thing to answer a specific question, and another
to be asked to do the legwork. Besides, it's poor pedagogy to let students
avoid the hard work of finding the information sources in the first place.
I know well that my point of view is unpopular.
Clearly only my own opinion.
Ruth F. Weiner
Sandia National Laboratories
MS 0718, POB 5800
Albuquerque, NM 87185-0718
505-844-4791; fax 505-844-0244
rfweine@sandia.gov
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From: Johannes Strydom [mailto:fritz.strydom@ors.gatech.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 1999 7:29 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: History of X-Rays
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Hello,
I received an email from a couple of high school students who are doing
a project on the history of x-rays and how they have changed the medical
industry. Does anyone have any good references or web sites to help
them?
Their original message is as follows:
We are two students from Florida working on a history fair
project about the way the xray machine has changed history in the
medical field. We would like to know if you would be able to send us any
information about how the machine has changed history or if we could
send you any questions we might have. Thank you for your time.
Thank you.
--
Johannes "Fritz" Strydom
Health Physicist
Office of Radiological Safety
Georgia Institute of Technology
(404) 894-3605 (404) 894-9325 Fax
fritz.strydom@ors.gatech.edu
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Hello,
<p>I received an email from a couple of high school students who are doing
a project on the history of x-rays and how they have changed the medical
industry. Does anyone have any good references or web sites to help
them?
<p>Their original message is as follows:
<p><i>We are two students from Florida working on a history fair</i>
<br><i>project about the way the xray machine has changed history in the</i>
<br><i>medical field. We would like to know if you would be able to send
us any</i>
<br><i>information about how the machine has changed history or if we
could</i>
<br><i>send you any questions we might have. Thank you for your
time.</i><i></i>
<p>Thank you.
<p>--
<br>Johannes "Fritz" Strydom
<br>Health Physicist
<br>Office of Radiological Safety
<br>Georgia Institute of Technology
<br>(404) 894-3605 (404) 894-9325 Fax
<br>fritz.strydom@ors.gatech.edu
<br> </html>
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