RE: NAS President's Statement on FOIA Initiative Relating

["Weiner, Ruth" <rfweine@sandia.gov>]

But the regulation doesn't say "end result" or "final paper."  Of course the
end result and/or final paper should be (and even now are and as far as I
know have been) available.  In fact, I like to get lots of readership for
mine.  That's not my point, nor, as I understand it, the point of the
regulation.  What I object to (which it seems to me was clear enough in the
other two postings) was a requirement to make "raw" unanalyzed unreduced
data available under FOIA.

And now, ONE LAST TIME:

Final work should be and is, to the best of my knowledge, available, and you
usually don't need FOIA -- if you want a paper or report of mine, just call
me up and I'll send you a copy.

I object to the notion that any and all raw and unanalyzed data would be
available on request and through FOIA.  Maybe the solution is to define
"data" better in the context of the rule (no not to change the dictionary
definition...).

Clearly only my own opinion.

Ruth F. Weiner
Sandia National Laboratories 
MS 0718, POB 5800
Albuquerque, NM 87185-0718
505-844-4791; fax 505-844-0244
rfweine@sandia.gov

-----Original Message-----
From: High Plains Drifter [mailto:magna1@jps.net]
Sent: Sunday, February 07, 1999 11:29 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: Re: NAS President's Statement on FOIA Initiative Relating


Ms. Weiner,

Both positive and negative data is useful in determining whether the end
result
is valid.  Also, any governmental funds used to develop data, positions, or
make
policy by government agencies (state and Federal) should then ensure that
the
final "paper" is available to me, a member of the funding public, without
regard
for how I use it.  Of course, there are those items dealing with national
security that are another story.  I would not expected to receive such data
without some hassle.

If you don't want to share information you develop using governmental funds,
then do private research using your own funds.

Most companies also subscribe to a similar type of contractual arrangement
with
their employee's that do research, except that the information can be solely
retained by the company.  That is unless public funds are used in the
research.

Some of us are interested in the how are moneys are spent in specific areas
of
science.

High Plains Drifter
magna1@jps.net

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