[ RadSafe ] Re: Old Germany, Nuclear France and CO2-absorbing USA

Franz Schönhofer franz.schoenhofer at gmail.com
Fri Nov 18 17:22:23 CST 2005

 Some time ago I intended to send you via RADSAFE an e-mail, stopped after
the first line, but unfortunately this e-mail was sent anyway without my
 There is after your most recent mail to RADSAFE even more reason to say:
 Quo usque tandem abuteris patientiam nostram? "How far will you abuse our
 You have sent since your first appearance on RADSAFE hardly anything
acceptable and reasonable. Your "blind" acceptance and defence of LNT is
something one can seriously discuss, but your arguments to support have met
hard criticizm from the RADSAFE community.
 You describe yourself as a "family doctor". I do not know exactly, what
this means in the USA, but I think that the most appropriate translation
into my Austrian German would mean "common practitioner". I visited my
"common practitioner" yesterday at about 6 p.m., had an interesting lengthy
conversation with a lot of valuable advices, but I do not believe, that he
would have been able or willing to join discussions on LNT, not to disregard
the fact that he would of course not know, what this is.
 I draw the conclusion that you only pretend to be an MD, your messages
clearly identify you as a mediocre or even less experienced person in the
field of radiation.
 This becomes even more obvious since you distribute since some weeks mostly
propaganda in favour of the actions of the USA in foreign countries, which
contradict international law and international treaties. This propaganda is
so intolerable, disgusting and contradicting any human sense, that I do not
understand, why you have not yet been suspended from the list or at least
been warned to continue with such messages.
 Finally you seem not to have recognized, that in the meantime hardly
anybody on RADSAFE answers to your ridiculous contributions. You do not even
recognize, that at least one of the respondends fools you continuously.
 Good bye!

 2005/11/17, howard long <hflong at pacbell.net>:
> My apologies for clumsy wording that was misunderstood, Prof Becker.
> 1, Indeed, Germany is "Green" physically (absorbing CO2) and (punny)
> politically.
> Germany, like the USA, likely should not be paying China, Brazil and India
> a world tax.
> 2, "Propaganda" is from all who want another tax to support
> authoritarianism, here and there.
> Respectfully, Howard Long
> PS, This morning A Kilcik et al report, (Washington Times) "Our results
> indicate marked influence of solar-activity variations on the earth's
> climate."
> Prof.Dr.Klaus.Becker at T-Online.de wrote:
> Dear Mr. Long,
> including the famous Black Forest, Germany is among the most forested
> areas in the civilized world, and - desptie the prevailing wind directions
> in your part of the world, I cannot dedect any relationship to "propaganda
> perfected 70 y ago" - here or anywhere elso.
> Regards. Klaus Becker
> "howard long" schrieb:
> > Green Germany didn't quite keep majority opposition to nuclear power,
> > France with 80% of electricity from nuclear (and so content with Kyoto),
> > and USA with more absorbtion of CO2 from forests than production by cars
> > (ppmCO2 in west coast prevailing winds MORE than in east coast exiting
> air)
> > have natually different positions.
> >
> > If only politicos represented knwledge, instead of the propaganda
> perfected in Germany
> > 70 years ago!
> >
> > Howard Long
> >
> > Prof.Dr.Klaus.Becker at t-online.de wrote:
> >
> >
> > Friends,
> >
> > as you may have noticed, I never subscribed to the habit of quoting
> extensively from more or less obscure newspapers in rad-sci-l. However, as
> one of my favorite playwriters Bert Brecht once remarked: "Principles are
> only kept alive by occasionally ignoring them!"
> >
> > As you perhaps know, among the world´s three most influential newspapers
> (the others are Financial Times and Wall Street Journal) is "Frankfurter
> Allgemeine Zeitung" (FAZ). It published on Nov. 11 an Editorial about
> nuclear energy in Germany by Stefan Dietrich (full text by fax on request).
> He summarizes all the well-known arguments: Replacing nuclear energy - as
> prescribed by the red-green withdrawal legislation - by renewables would,
> according to the former Minister of Economy Mueller, eventually cost the
> German economy about 300 bill. USD; total dependance on Russian natural gas
> would invite blackmailing, etc.
> >
> > In addition, there would be no chance to meet the Kyoto CO2 reduction
> protocol - in which the U.S. as the world´s main CO2 emitter did not
> participate anyway. To quote another well-known author, Winston Churchill:
> "You can always trust that our American friends will do the right thing -
> after exhausting all alternatives."
> >
> > These points have also been recently emphasized in a statement by the
> highly reputed German Physics Society, all the way down to an Open Letter to
> all members of parliament etc. which we just drafted, with so far 200
> signatures.
> >
> > With our government crisis finally coming to an end (things seem to run
> more smoothly without interference by a government during the past half
> year), the nuclear question still remains unagreed-on. This means that the
> "exit-law" is officially still valid, but there is substantial hope that,
> with increasing oil prices and related pains, it will be abolished or at
> least modified into an extended NNP lifetime within the next years (similar
> to the Swedish situation).
> >
> > With cordial regards from the depressing late fall climate in Berlin to
> sunnier parts of the world
> > Klaus
> >
> > --
> > Prof. Dr. Klaus Becker
> > Boothstr. 27, D-12207 Berlin
> > Phone/Fax +49(0)30-7721284
> >
> >
> --
> Prof. Dr. Klaus Becker
> Boothstr. 27, D-12207 Berlin
> Phone/Fax +49(0)30-7721284
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