[ RadSafe ] Re:"State of Fear"

Mon Feb 20 10:31:24 CST 2006

The term "Global Warming" is used all the time by the media and is a
misleading description of the phenomenon, because not every place around
the world will get warmer. The better term is "Climatic Change."

Dimiter's data proves the current models for climatic change. Europe
will get colder due to the Artic ice melting into the ocean and cooling
the gulf stream current, and other locations such as the U.S. will get
warmer- this winter was one of the warmest for New England ever
recorded.

Climatic change has much scientific evidence to support it. The question
now  is "Are human beings accelerating climate change and at what rate?"
It only takes a small amount of CO2 to increase the greenhouse effect,
but the carbon cycle of the Earth can regulate this increase to some
degree.

Sean Chapel, B.S.
Chapel Consulting

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From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] On
Behalf Of John R Johnson
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 10:17 AM
To: Dimiter Popoff; radsafe at radlab.nl
Subject: RE: [ RadSafe ] Re:"State of Fear"

Dimiter

This is not my area of expertise, but why are the global "ice caps"
melting
if its not "global warming.

I've heard of concerns that the polar bears in the Canadian artic are
suffering because their traditional breeding grounds are melting!

John
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-----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl]On
Behalf
Of Dimiter Popoff
Sent: February 20, 2006 7:08 AM
To: radsafe at radlab.nl
Subject: [ RadSafe ] Re:"State of Fear"

Actually the temperature data I have access to indicates cooling
rather than warming. 3 out of last 4 years we had no summer
at all - temperatures were way lower than average, this winter
we had deeply buried waterpipes freeze for the first time in their
20 years existance etc...
I really do not buy into all the global warming talk, however aggressive
the media are about it. Whether it is just a mistake or a lie
or a mixture of both I do not know, what I do know is that
my winter energy consumption is rising measurably while
the thermostat here keeps the temperature with about a 0.1 C
precision year after year... whatever the CO2 concentration may
have been.

Dimiter

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>  -------Original Message-------
>  From: Maury Siskel <maurysis at ev1.net>
>  Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] "State of Fear"
>  Sent: Feb 20 '06 06:39
>
>  Yes, the board is closed to any fresh contributions, but one can skim
>  through the thread contributions that were stimulated closer to the
time
>  the book was released. And as Andy has suggested, there is little, to
>  the best of my knowledge, that alleviates the available conflicting
data.
>
>  My anecdotal, subjective, non-agnostic, opinionated beliefs are
struck
>  by the presumption that puny human animals might have the power to so
>  profoundly alter the planetary climate. And I've seen no advocate of
>  anthropogenic change willing to suggest that we might change the
outcome
>  with even the most stringent regulations. I believe sincerely  that
the
>  evidence for alternatives to LNT is stronger.
>
>  And the beat goes on ....
>  Cheers,
>  Maury&Dog
>  _______
>  For centuries, people believed the moon was made of green cheese.
Then
>  the astronauts found that the moon is really a big hard rock. That's
>  what happens to cheese when you leave it out.
>  ======================
>  Cehn at aol.com wrote:
>
>  > Maury;
>  >
>  > Thanks, but it looks like the State of Fear board is closed.
>  >
>  > --JC
>  >
>  > In a message dated 2/19/2006 7:16:49 PM Pacific Standard Time,
>  > maurysis at ev1.net writes:
>  >
>  >     For those interested, here is a link to the Crichton message
board
>  >     which
>  >     has archived extensive discussion of his book ...
>  >     http://www.michaelcrichton.net/messageboard.html
>  >     Best regards,
>  >     Maury&DFog      (maurysis at ev1.net)
>  >
>  >     ==============
>  >     Cehn at aol.com wrote:
>  >
>  >     >Don't know if there's a thread on the book "State of Fear",
but
>  >     its a book
>  >     >worth reading. THe author has spoken out about the poor media
>  >     coverage of
>  >     >
>  >     >
>  >     ------------  snipped  -----------
>  >
>  >
>
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