[ RadSafe ] NYT Article: N.Y. Grid Could Stand to Lose Reactors, Panel Says

[Raymond A Hoover]

I was there for the last emergency drill.  It was licensed to the 5% start-up level (I think).  In all probability, the drill and 5% were posturing by Long Island Light to get the state to buy them out.  I think Long Island Light (and Gas) saw the writing on the wall and was using those to get the state to hurry things along.  
   
  I think the folks who bought in to that whole deal were either ignorant of stupid.
   
  Yeah I know about the Md thing (I live in VA, just outside of DC).  I get the feeling that the people of MD were told they were going to a free market, even though there was a price cap on the rates.  Nobody was smart enough to realize that "there ain't no such thing as a free lunch (TANSTAFL, from Heinlein's The Moon is a Harsh Mistriss).
   
  We apparently had a similar deal here in VA, only now the state legislation is looking to modify the ban on rate changes.
  

John Jacobus <crispy_bird at yahoo.com> wrote:
  Ray,
Completed reactor on Long Island did get to full
power. I guess NY citizens enjoy paying higher rates.
I don't. Do you?

There is talk in Maryland of delaying both the gas and
electricity rate increases for individuals. However,
if you choose to do that, you will have to make up the
difference in a few years. 

--- Raymond A Hoover wrote:

> Gee, wasn't NY the state that closed down a fully
> functional nuclear reactor on Long Island ? And
> then installed gas turbine generators?
> 
> And when did Maryland deregulate. They said they
> deregulated and then did not allow the electric
> company to not raise prices. That is not what I
> would call deregulating.
> 
> John Jacobus wrote:
> Jaro,
> Since I live in Maryland, I do not enjoy the
> "benefits" of Indian Point or Hydro Quebec power
> supplies. Personally, I think NY citizens would be
> fools to shut down Indian Point. That would put them
> at the mercy of Canada, which should be our 51st
> state
> anyway.
> 
> Does anyone besides me think that deregulation was a
> good idea?
> 
> --- Jaro wrote:
> 
> > John Jacobus wrote:
> > Right now I am looking at a 75% increase in
> utility
> > rates due to
> > deregulation.
> > 
> > 
> > Don't worry John, our Hydro Quebec will sell you
> the
> > electricity you need -
> > and make a fabulous fortune in the process.
> > The Provincial utility is pushing hard for
> > conservation locally, because of
> > the regulated low prices here -- so that they can
> > sell as much as possible
> > to you guys, and fleece you royally in the
> process.
> > Hydro Quebec would LOVE it if you closed down
> Indian
> > Point.
> > It would drive prices sky-high.
> > We've got a great gig going here, with the
> enormous
> > hydro reservoirs in
> > James Bay and elsewhere: HQ can buy cheap
> > coal-generated electricity from
> > south of the border & from the Atlantic Provinces,
> > when its not needed & the
> > rates are low, store it in the hydro reservoirs
> > (i.e. just close the turbine
> > gates), and then sell it back to you when prices
> are
> > high.
> > Some folks figure it might be a better idea to
> > negotiate a "power sharing"
> > contract with HQ, whereby a certain fixed service
> > fee would be paid to HQ
> > for such energy storage, instead of deferring to
> the
> > brutal vagaries of the
> > open market.
> > But this idea doesn't seem to have occurred yet to
> > the politicians & power
> > brokers south of the border, in Ontario, or in the
> > Atlantic Provinces.
> > Or maybe they just don't worry that much about
> John
> > Jacobus' 75% increase in
> > utility rates?
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> +++++++++++++++++++
> "You get a lot more authority when the workforce
> doesn't think it's amateur hour on the top floor."
> GEN. MICHAEL V. HAYDEN, President Bush's nominee for
> C.I.A. director.
> 
> -- John
> John Jacobus, MS
> Certified Health Physicist
> e-mail: crispy_bird at yahoo.com
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-- John
John Jacobus, MS
Certified Health Physicist
e-mail: crispy_bird at yahoo.com

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