[ RadSafe ] LAT Article: Florida pawnshop'sradioactivesurprise("Yellow cake")

John Jacobus crispy_bird at yahoo.com
Fri Apr 6 15:06:39 CDT 2007


Jim,
I am not sure what "we" really know. Where is the data
that shows people in low background areas are in
poorer health?  If anything, people with better health
care are healthier.  People who eat better are
healthier.

What does "but K-40 provides a baseline of 0.25-0.40
mSv of 24/365 1/4 radiation" mean? 

My understanding is that life, e.g., protozoans,
requires energy.  If you deprive an organism of
energy, be it heat or radiation, it will not survive.
If the organism lacking K-40 is not supplied with
external energy, be it thorium sand or a heat lamp, it
will not survive.  I know that this fit into your
philosophy, but you may want to consider the
implications, i.e., it is not radiation but energy
that makes life.  

--- "Muckerheide, Jim  (CDA)"
<Jim.Muckerheide at state.ma.us> wrote:

> John, note that I referred to an experiment in which
> the low-dose
> deficiency without K-40 was compensated for with
> either providing K-40,
> natural potassium, OR external radiation (I
> understood that it was
> thorium sand).  It's not the K-40 itself, but K-40
> provides a baseline
> of 0.25-0.40 mSv of 24/365 1/4 radiation, plus
> cosmic of course, and
> generally U/Rn and decay products, to provide a
> minimal level to
> maintain health (although we do know that people in
> the lowest-dose
> natural background areas are less healthy than
> people in average or
> natural high-dose areas).
> 
> That is, K-40 depletion itself isn't detrimental as
> long as there is
> sufficient radiation from other sources!
> 
> Regards, Jim 
>  
> 
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: John Jacobus [mailto:crispy_bird at yahoo.com] 
> >Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 12:58 PM
> >To: John R Johnson; Muckerheide, Jim (CDA); Jeff
> Terry; radsafe
> >Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] LAT Article: Florida 
> >pawnshop'sradioactivesurprise("Yellow cake")
> >
> >John,
> >Yes, I am aware that we need potassium.  My
> question
> >is do we need K-40 as some believe.
> >
> >--- John R Johnson <idias at interchange.ubc.ca>
> wrote:
> >
> >> John
> >> 
> >> It has nothing to do with K-40. We all need
> >> potassium to live, as I pointed 
> >> out recently on Radsafe.
> >> 
> >> John
> >> ***************
> >> John R Johnson, PhD
> >> CEO, IDIAS, Inc.
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> >> idias at interchange.ubc.ca
> >> 
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "John Jacobus" <crispy_bird at yahoo.com>
> >> To: "Muckerheide, Jim (CDA)"
> >> <Jim.Muckerheide at state.ma.us>; "John R Johnson" 
> >> <idias at interchange.ubc.ca>; "Jeff Terry"
> >> <terryj at iit.edu>; "radsafe" 
> >> <radsafe at radlab.nl>
> >> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 2:02 PM
> >> Subject: RE: [ RadSafe ] LAT Article: Florida 
> >> pawnshop'sradioactivesurprise("Yellow cake")
> >> 
> >> 
> >> > Jim,
> >> > Beyond cells, is there any proof to your
> statement
> >> > regarding K-40?  A citation or two would be
> nice.
> >> >
> >> > --- "Muckerheide, Jim  (CDA)"
> >> > <Jim.Muckerheide at state.ma.us> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Amen John,
> >> >>
> >> >> Not only would you die without potassium, it
> is
> >> >> fairly well homeostatically controlled.
> >> >>
> >> >> We even know that with just K-39, removing the
> >> K-40,
> >> >> and shielding from external radiation, cells
> and
> >> >> organisms cease to function.
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards, Jim
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> 
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> >or reverse each adversity; and therefore there
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> >
> >-- John
> >John Jacobus, MS
> >Certified Health Physicist
> >e-mail:  crispy_bird at yahoo.com
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“We must face the fact that the United States is neither omnipotent or omniscient — that we are only 6 percent of the world’s population; that we cannot impose our will upon the other 94 percent of mankind; that we cannot right every wrong or reverse each adversity; and therefore there cannot be an American solution to every world problem.”
-- John F. Kennedy 

-- John
John Jacobus, MS
Certified Health Physicist
e-mail:  crispy_bird at yahoo.com


 
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