[ RadSafe ] " Technology to detect radiation has progressed "

Thu Aug 30 21:50:21 CDT 2007

John,
I certainly agree.  There was a time when the majority
people in this country had the fortitude to take on
challenges as during the Great Depression and WWII. 
Now we would rather pour money into projects and
ignore the facts that they may not be adequate or
appropriate.  At one time we had a Civil Defense
program based on the idea that we had ability to
survive a nuclear attack.  A real one that would
destroy a number of cities.  Now we worry about people
who had nuclear medicine tests and therapies.

--- "Flood, John" <FloodJR at nv.doe.gov> wrote:

> The anti-everything mantra of "you can't prove it's
> perfectly safe" seems to have become the focus of
> the discussion.  There is no limit to the variety of
> scenarios that can be imagined and no way to defend
> against everything that can  be imagined.  The only
> truly safe solution is to cancel the sport.
> 
> There have been threats to a nation's activities
> from outsiders throughout human history, and
> societies haven't shut down in response.  We won't
> be the first to try that approach.  We will continue
> to live our lives, defend against what we perceive
> as credible threats, and try to educate the
> agressors on the catastrophic consequences of their
> actions should they do the unimaginable.  Short of
> abandoning life as we have lived it and hiding
> forevermore, what else is there?
> 
> John R. (Bob) Flood
> Radiological Health
> Nevada Test Site
> (702) 295-2514 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl
> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] On Behalf Of John
> Jacobus
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 7:06 PM
> To: ROGERS, Brent; radsafe at radlab.nl
> Subject: RE: [ RadSafe ] " Technology to detect
> radiation has progressed "
> 
> It is not a hard quesion.  I would prepare for those
> contingencies that can occur, not the ones that are
> unrealistic.  I certainly would not look for
> radiation becuase the only treat is the government
> saying that we should expect one.  
> 
> What about you?  How many treats do you see?  How
> about poison gas?  How about machine guns?  If you
> want to be "safe," ban the gathering of three people
> or more.
> 
> --- "ROGERS, Brent" <brent.rogers at ansto.gov.au>
> wrote:
> 
> > And presuming you have a pretty good idea what the
> answers are to all 
> > those questions you would ask, would you prepare
> for that contingency, 
> > or would you ignore it?  Is that such a hard
> question?
> > 
> >      
> > 
> > Brent Rogers
> > Leader Commercial Radiation Safety Group
> Australian Nuclear Science 
> > and Technology Organisation PMB 1, Menai NSW 2234
> T +61 2 9717 3251 F 
> > +61 2 9717 9266 M +61 4 1723 1879 (0417 231 879) E
> 
> > brent.rogers at ansto.gov.au www.ansto.gov.au
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Jacobus [mailto:crispy_bird at yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, 28 August 2007 7:40 AM
> > To: ROGERS, Brent; 'Steven Dapra';
> radsafe at radlab.nl
> > Subject: RE: [ RadSafe ] " Technology to detect
> radiation has 
> > progressed "
> > 
> > I would ask, what problems have occurred at other
> such events?  What 
> > is the likely of people getting sick from food
> poisoning, of fights 
> > between drunk parents, etc.  What REALISTIC treats
> do the Federal and 
> > state law enforcement agencies see? How many
> radiological bombs have 
> > been set off at public events?
> > 
> > And your responses to my questions?  
> > 
> > --- "ROGERS, Brent" <brent.rogers at ansto.gov.au>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > <sigh>  More questions to answer questions.    
> > > 
> > > Brent Rogers
> > > Leader Commercial Radiation Safety Group
> Australian Nuclear Science 
> > > and Technology Organisation PMB 1, Menai NSW
> 2234 T +61 2 9717 3251 
> > > F +61 2 9717 9266 M +61 4 1723 1879 (0417 231
> 879) E 
> > > brent.rogers at ansto.gov.au www.ansto.gov.au
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: John Jacobus
> [mailto:crispy_bird at yahoo.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, 27 August 2007 12:52 PM
> > > To: ROGERS, Brent; 'Steven Dapra';
> > radsafe at radlab.nl
> > > Subject: RE: [ RadSafe ] " Technology to detect
> radiation has 
> > > progressed "
> > > 
> > > Brent,
> > > How many contingencies are you will to protect? 
> > > What
> > > are you willing to give up in funding and
> freedom?
> > 
> > > The terrorist have won because we fear our own
> society.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- "ROGERS, Brent" <brent.rogers at ansto.gov.au>
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Franklin Roosevelt said "The only thing we
> have
> > to
> > > > fear is fear itself." 
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > I'm sure 3000 people cheerfully went to work
> one glorious late 
> > > > summer day in NYC thinking the exact same
> thing.
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > PS:  You answered my "most important question"
> > > with
> > > > a question of your own.
> > > > A new question, is not an answer.  I ask
> again: 
> > > If
> > > > you were responsible for
> > > > safety and security of Williamsport, would you
> > be
> > > > willing not to be prepared
> > > > for that contingency?
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > Brent Rogers
> > > > 
> > > > Leader Commercial Radiation Safety Group
> > > > 
> > > > Australian Nuclear Science and Technology
> Organisation
> > > > 
> > 
> > +++++++++++++++++++
> > "All of the old-timers knew that subprime
> mortgages were what we 
> > called neutron loans --  they killed the people
> and left the houses. . 
> > . .
> > "LOUIS S. BARNES, a partner at Boulder West, a
> mortgage banking firm.
> > 
> > -- John
> > John Jacobus, MS
> > Certified Health Physicist
> > e-mail:  crispy_bird at yahoo.com
> > 
> > 
> >        
> >
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> +++++++++++++++++++
> "All of the old-timers knew that subprime mortgages
> were what we called neutron loans --  they killed
> the people and left the houses. . . .
> "LOUIS S. BARNES, a partner at Boulder West, a
> mortgage banking firm.
> 
> -- John
> John Jacobus, MS
> Certified Health Physicist
> e-mail:  crispy_bird at yahoo.com
> 
> 
>        
>
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"All of the old-timers knew that subprime mortgages were what we called neutron loans --  they killed the people and left the houses. . . .
"LOUIS S. BARNES, a partner at Boulder West, a mortgage banking firm.

-- John
John Jacobus, MS
Certified Health Physicist
e-mail:  crispy_bird at yahoo.com

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