[ RadSafe ] Doyle and Ryan Gulf war reproductive health paper

[Bob Cherry]

Having served as an Army officer until 2001, my Navy colleagues told me when
I asked about this that the Navy was going back to tungsten for its
anti-ship munitions because, although W is more expensive than DU, W is more
than adequate to penetrate naval targets and the administrative problems
with DU were not worth the trouble thanks to characters similar to Mr.
Salsman. I repeat that this is anecdotal information and I was not privy to
the Navy's decision-making process over this issue.

Bob C

-----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] On Behalf
Of John Jacobus
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 4:03 PM
To: ROY HERREN; Robert J. Gunter; 'radsafelist'
Subject: RE: [ RadSafe ] Doyle and Ryan Gulf war reproductive health paper

Roy,
Having served as a Navy officer until 1994, the use of tungsten munitions
were being considered due to the storage of DU near berthing spaces.  Not
all of the
U-238 was freshly "minted" and the concern involved the daugher products,
such as Pa-234.  In a few number of the older destroyers and cruisers, the
munitions were "stuffed" into spaces near the berthing areas.  


--- ROY HERREN <royherren2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:

>    Having lived on and worked aboard Navy ships and Submarines for 
> many years I can assure you that they are sufficiently large enough to 
> adequately store any type of energetic material far enough away from 
> berthing to prevent unnecessary personnel exposure.
> The US Navy has the worlds greatest collective experience with 
> operations of nuclear reactors!
> Storage of DU isn't difficult when compared to all that the Navy has 
> accomplished since Admiral Rickover launched the Navy Nuclear program.
>    
>      The major reason for continued research and development into 
> armor penetrating munitions is very straight forward, development of a 
> better means to vanquish the enemy.  Politics or political fall out, 
> i.e. bad publicity, are only a very distant secondary consideration 
> for the military.
>    
>   
> 
> John Jacobus <crispy_bird at yahoo.com> wrote:
>   One of the reasons that tungsten is being considered as a 
> replacement for DU is that on Navy ships, DU storage areas are 
> frequently adjacent to berthing compartments. As U-238 decays, the 
> daughter products emit photons of significant energies that may to 
> lead to exposures to the men (and women) in the berthing areas. For 
> the Army and Air Force, their people do not sleep to DU storage areas.
> 
> --- "Robert J. Gunter" 
> wrote:
> 
> > "The fact that the DoE is trying so hard to come
> up
> > with tungsten
> > replacements, and issuing press releases about it, should be proof 
> > enough that there is a reason to do so."
> > 
> > James, we can agree on this. There is a "reason". 
> > Sometimes things are
> > done simply for PR (public relations). This should not be a surprise 
> > to anyone living in the US of A.
> > 
> > Robert J. Gunter, CHP
> > CHP Consultants
> > Oak Ridge, TN
> > Ph: (865) 387-0028
> > Fax: (865) 483-7189
> > rjgunter at chpconsultants.com
> > Products and Services at:
> > www.chpconsultants.com
> > 
> > 
> > 

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"We must face the fact that the United States is neither omnipotent or
omniscient - that we are only 6 percent of the world's population; that we
cannot impose our will upon the other 94 percent of mankind; that we cannot
right every wrong or reverse each adversity; and therefore there cannot be
an American solution to every world problem."
-- John F. Kennedy 

-- John
John Jacobus, MS
Certified Health Physicist
e-mail:  crispy_bird at yahoo.com


 
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