[ RadSafe ] Doyle and Ryan Gulf war reproductive health paper

[John Jacobus]

Bob,
To the best of my knowledge when I left the Navy in
1994, the change over to tungsten did not happen, and
I would bet that it has not.  Why would you throw away
good ammunition?

--- Bob Cherry <bobcherry at satx.rr.com> wrote:

> Having served as an Army officer until 2001, my Navy
> colleagues told me when
> I asked about this that the Navy was going back to
> tungsten for its
> anti-ship munitions because, although W is more
> expensive than DU, W is more
> than adequate to penetrate naval targets and the
> administrative problems
> with DU were not worth the trouble thanks to
> characters similar to Mr.
> Salsman. I repeat that this is anecdotal information
> and I was not privy to
> the Navy's decision-making process over this issue.
> 
> Bob C
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl
> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] On Behalf
> Of John Jacobus
> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 4:03 PM
> To: ROY HERREN; Robert J. Gunter; 'radsafelist'
> Subject: RE: [ RadSafe ] Doyle and Ryan Gulf war
> reproductive health paper
> 
> Roy,
> Having served as a Navy officer until 1994, the use
> of tungsten munitions
> were being considered due to the storage of DU near
> berthing spaces.  Not
> all of the
> U-238 was freshly "minted" and the concern involved
> the daugher products,
> such as Pa-234.  In a few number of the older
> destroyers and cruisers, the
> munitions were "stuffed" into spaces near the
> berthing areas.  
> 
> 
> --- ROY HERREN <royherren2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> >    Having lived on and worked aboard Navy ships
> and Submarines for 
> > many years I can assure you that they are
> sufficiently large enough to 
> > adequately store any type of energetic material
> far enough away from 
> > berthing to prevent unnecessary personnel
> exposure.
> > The US Navy has the worlds greatest collective
> experience with 
> > operations of nuclear reactors!
> > Storage of DU isn't difficult when compared to all
> that the Navy has 
> > accomplished since Admiral Rickover launched the
> Navy Nuclear program.
> >    
> >      The major reason for continued research and
> development into 
> > armor penetrating munitions is very straight
> forward, development of a 
> > better means to vanquish the enemy.  Politics or
> political fall out, 
> > i.e. bad publicity, are only a very distant
> secondary consideration 
> > for the military.
> >    
> >   
> > 
> > John Jacobus <crispy_bird at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >   One of the reasons that tungsten is being
> considered as a 
> > replacement for DU is that on Navy ships, DU
> storage areas are 
> > frequently adjacent to berthing compartments. As
> U-238 decays, the 
> > daughter products emit photons of significant
> energies that may to 
> > lead to exposures to the men (and women) in the
> berthing areas. For 
> > the Army and Air Force, their people do not sleep
> to DU storage areas.
> > 
> > --- "Robert J. Gunter" 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > "The fact that the DoE is trying so hard to come
> > up
> > > with tungsten
> > > replacements, and issuing press releases about
> it, should be proof 
> > > enough that there is a reason to do so."
> > > 
> > > James, we can agree on this. There is a
> "reason". 
> > > Sometimes things are
> > > done simply for PR (public relations). This
> should not be a surprise 
> > > to anyone living in the US of A.
> > > 
> > > Robert J. Gunter, CHP
> > > CHP Consultants
> > > Oak Ridge, TN
> > > Ph: (865) 387-0028
> > > Fax: (865) 483-7189
> > > rjgunter at chpconsultants.com
> > > Products and Services at:
> > > www.chpconsultants.com
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> 
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> "We must face the fact that the United States is
> neither omnipotent or
> omniscient - that we are only 6 percent of the
> world's population; that we
> cannot impose our will upon the other 94 percent of
> mankind; that we cannot
> right every wrong or reverse each adversity; and
> therefore there cannot be
> an American solution to every world problem."
> -- John F. Kennedy 
> 
> -- John
> John Jacobus, MS
> Certified Health Physicist
> e-mail:  crispy_bird at yahoo.com
> 
> 
>  
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“We must face the fact that the United States is neither omnipotent or omniscient — that we are only 6 percent of the world’s population; that we cannot impose our will upon the other 94 percent of mankind; that we cannot right every wrong or reverse each adversity; and therefore there cannot be an American solution to every world problem.”
-- John F. Kennedy 

-- John
John Jacobus, MS
Certified Health Physicist
e-mail:  crispy_bird at yahoo.com


 
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