[ RadSafe ] The Great Global Warming Swindle

[Kai Kaletsch]

Hi Blaine,

Yes, I understand that the program was trying to make the first point that 
CO2 DOESN'T DRIVE GLOBAL WARMING. To me, that is an irrelevant point. Maybe, 
solar activity has more effect than CO2. That does not necessarily mean we 
don't have to worry about the perturbations that CO2 causes, above what is 
caused by solar activity. In fact, when they present the graph of solar 
activity vs temperature, there is pretty good agreement, until you get to 
the last 30 years. Both lines go in the same direction, but by completely 
different magnitudes. So, it looks like something changed (i.e. a 
perturbation was introduced) in the solar activity vs climate relationship. 
(They don't leave that graph on the screen very long. They take their time 
following the curves as they get drawn for the last few hundred years, where 
they agree very well, and then take the graph off very quickly after the 
last 30 years are drawn and one line shows a slight kink upwards and the 
other one seems to go off the chart.)

Now, it looks like I indeed missed your second point that "...x% increase in 
CO2 will have no effect on global warming." Where exactly was that point 
made? In fact, I got the complete opposite impression: Near the end of the 
show, one of the skeptics argues that the global warming proponents are 
using bigger CO2 emissions than there actually are and he goes on to say 
something like NO WONDER they are predicting high temperature increases.

I don't understand how that statement is compatible with your assertion that 
x% increase in CO2 will have no effect on global warming. That skeptic seems 
to say that, obviously, CO2 causes global warming, but we overestimate the 
effect because we overestimate the source term.

Best Regards,

Kai


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Blaine Howard" <blainehoward at yahoo.com>
To: "Kai Kaletsch" <eic at shaw.ca>
Cc: <radsafe at radlab.nl>
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] The Great Global Warming Swindle


> Dear Kai,
> I read your comments about "The Great Global Warming
> Swindle " with interest.  I wondered how you missed
> the whole point of the video.
> The main points are:
> FIRST AND FOREMOST, CO2 DOESN'T DRIVE GLOBAL WARMING.
>
> Man made emissions are trivial and CO2 concentrations
> do not drive global warming.  It is not a cause and
> effect relationship, so x% increase in CO2 will have
> no effect on global warming.
> The great oceans are a tremendous reservoir for CO2
> which buffers the effect of current emissions,
> spreading it over hundreds of years.
> The primary factors for global warming (and cooling)
> are the SUN and the CLOUDS (water vapor).
> These are factors over which we have absolutely no
> control.  So to limit the underdeveloped countries to
> not using the energy sources available to them and
> asking them to get there electricity from solar and
> wind generators is ridiculous and cruel to the poor
> people of those countries.
> The earth has a tremendous capacity for temperature
> control since it was designed by the ultimate expert.
> So we need to back off from trying to control the
> uncontrollable and develop the energy sources He has
> made available to us for the benefit of all mankind.
>
> Sincerely,
> Blaine N. Howard
>
>