[ RadSafe ] Re: Williston-Elin Irradiator Repair

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Fri Mar 23 00:54:39 CDT 2007


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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:08:30 -0400
From: <Reno_Fabii at doh.state.fl.us>
Subject: [ RadSafe ] Williston-Elin
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We have a Williston-Elin irradiator in need of repair and support.
Does anyone know of a US company that will provide service support?
Does anyone have a copy of the complete technical manual for the unit?

Reno J. Fabii
Environmental Specialist II
Florida Dept. of Health
Bureau of Radiation Control
Phone: (407) 297-2096 Ext. 240
Fax: (407) 297-2085
reno_fabii at doh.state.fl.us


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1. Re: Breast Cancer Risk, and working in Radiology / Nuclear
Medicine (John Jacobus)
2. Re: IJLR - Erickson - Range of Motion assessment at radonmine
(John Jacobus)
3. AW: [ RadSafe ] Breast Cancer Risk, and working in Radiology
/ Nuclear Medicine (Rainer.Facius at dlr.de)
4. Williston-Elin (Reno_Fabii at doh.state.fl.us)
5. LAT Article: Florida pawnshop's radioactive surprise ("Yellow
cake") (John Jacobus)
6. RE: LAT Article: Florida pawnshop's radioactive
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Medicine (Michael McNaughton)
10. RCT Salary Survey (Keith Welch)
11. RE: Breast Cancer Risk, and working in Radiology / Nuclear
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 06:28:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Jacobus 
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Breast Cancer Risk, and working in Radiology
/ Nuclear Medicine
To: Diane Griffiths , Steven Dapra
, radsafe at radlab.nl
Message-ID: <305841.91118.qm at web54306.mail.yahoo.com>
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Diane,
You may have to accept that fact that they may not
want you accept ANY evidence that you present to them.
This appears to be a statistical cluster when rare
event, two technologist out of xx get breast cancer. 
Statistically, it can happen, like winning the
lottery. But, now many times this CAN happen is rare.
You might want to ask them how many of their friends
or relative who have not worked around radiation have
breast cancer. They are probably both in their late
40s and early 50s, so the natural incidences of breast
cancer should be evident. My wife made that comment
that several of her friends had breast cancer. After
looking at the issue from the natural incidence rate,
it be came clear that this was to be expected.

I wish you luck on this. You are dealing with
emotions that these technologists feel. 


--- Diane Griffiths 
wrote:

> Thanks y'all, you are giving me some more ideas to
> try and more areas to research.
> 
> I gave them an extensive training packet with their
> yearly training last October that explained
> background radiation, natural radiation, even
> explained that K40 in the body is radioactive. I
> also gave them yearly background averages, as well
> as medical procedure averages. Told them about
> biological effects, and at what exposures they
> occured (and said it was XX times their exposures).
> In addition, I told them about time, distance,
> shielding. (To which they made me show that the
> Angio suite IS shielded by placing sources in there
> and demonstrating the geiger counter readings). I
> had a few articles on breast cancer risk to Nuclear
> Medicine techs and some of the studies some of you
> mentioned. (Then they tell me last week that they
> have never been trained. And argued that fact with
> me until I showed them the sign in sheet and
> training packet and then they all of a sudden
> remembered.)
> 
> They told me they wanted specific examples of if
> females in other hospitals working with radiation
> got breast cancer. (Even though the two female
> Nuclear Medicine techs have had no problems and have
> been in the field for 24 years each). At that point
> I compared their exposures to the Nuc Med techs.
> They said that they understood what I was telling
> them, but they were still scared. (Then after the
> meeting they told the Nuclear tech that my meeting
> with them did not help at all.)
> 
> One nurse said it is like if two people got run over
> by a car on the same street and location. It is not
> the fact that the street is not safe, but they would
> be scared to cross at the same location cause they
> would probably get hurt at that location also. 
> 
> So what they told me they wanted was specific
> examples from other hospitals that less than 20% got
> breast cancer from working around radiation and they
> might feel better about it. They wanted me to call
> all the hospitals in town and get information on how
> many of the female techs got breast cancer. 
> 
> So any of you in hospitals have any female techs
> that got breast cancer, or didn't? Any numbers out
> there?
> 
> Diane
> 
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 06:31:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Jacobus 
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] IJLR - Erickson - Range of Motion assessment
at radonmine
To: Jerry Cuttler , "Muckerheide, Jim
\(CDA\)" , Patricia Lewis
, Barbra Erickson
, RAD-SCI-L 
Cc: "Scott, Bobby" , Ted Rockwell
, Edward Calabrese
, Ron Mitchel ,
Jodi.Strzelczyk at UCHSC.edu, TD Luckey , Myron
Pollycove 
, Ludwig Feinendegen
, radsafe at radlab.nl, Peter Deetjen

, Christoph Köstinger
, "M Vogel @MSU" ,
"Robert J. Cihak" 
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And what does this have to do with radon? Or radon
mines? Or ranges of motion?

--- Jerry Cuttler wrote:

> Here's one that used x-rays.
> There are many more ...
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Jacobus" 
> To: "Muckerheide, Jim (CDA)"
> ; "Patricia Lewis" 
> ; "Barbra Erickson" 
> ; "RAD-SCI-L"
> 
> Cc: "Scott, Bobby" ; "Christoph
> Köstinger" 
> ; "Ted Rockwell"
> ; 
> "Edward Calabrese" ;
> "Ron Mitchel" 
> ; "Jerry Cuttler"
> ; "Myron 
> Pollycove" 
; "Ludwig
> Feinendegen" 
> ; "Peter Deetjen"
> 
; "M Vogel 
> @MSU" ; "TD Luckey"
> ; "Robert J. 
> Cihak" ;
> ; 
> 
> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 4:12 PM
> Subject: RE: [ RadSafe ] IJLR - Erickson - Range of
> Motion assessment at 
> radonmine
> 
> 
> > Jim,
> > Yes, it should be subjective.
> >
> > Rather than larger studies, physiological
> parameters
> > should be measured. Are you aware of any radon
> > studies that evaluated such factors as antibodies,
> > lymphocytes?
> >
> > 

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“We must face the fact that the United States is neither omnipotent or omniscient — that we are only 6 percent of the world’s population; that we cannot impose our will upon the other 94 percent of mankind; that we cannot right every wrong or reverse each adversity; and therefore there cannot be an American solution to every world problem.”
-- John F. Kennedy 

-- John
John Jacobus, MS
Certified Health Physicist
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:47:47 +0100
From: 
Subject: AW: [ RadSafe ] Breast Cancer Risk, and working in Radiology
/ Nuclear Medicine
To: , ,
, 
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Very well said, John; also your preceding comment regarding the proper sources to consult.

Kind regards, Rainer


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] Im Auftrag von John Jacobus
Gesendet: Montag, 12. März 2007 14:29
An: Diane Griffiths; Steven Dapra; radsafe at radlab.nl
Betreff: Re: [ RadSafe ] Breast Cancer Risk,and working in Radiology / Nuclear Medicine

Diane,
You may have to accept that fact that they may not want you accept ANY evidence that you present to them.
This appears to be a statistical cluster when rare event, two technologist out of xx get breast cancer. 
Statistically, it can happen, like winning the lottery. But, now many times this CAN happen is rare.
You might want to ask them how many of their friends or relative who have not worked around radiation have breast cancer. They are probably both in their late 40s and early 50s, so the natural incidences of breast cancer should be evident. My wife made that comment that several of her friends had breast cancer. After looking at the issue from the natural incidence rate, it be came clear that this was to be expected.

I wish you luck on this. You are dealing with emotions that these technologists feel. 


--- Diane Griffiths 
wrote:

> Thanks y'all, you are giving me some more ideas to try and more areas 
> to research.
> 
> I gave them an extensive training packet with their yearly training 
> last October that explained background radiation, natural radiation, 
> even explained that K40 in the body is radioactive. I also gave them 
> yearly background averages, as well as medical procedure averages. 
> Told them about biological effects, and at what exposures they occured 
> (and said it was XX times their exposures).
> In addition, I told them about time, distance, shielding. (To which 
> they made me show that the Angio suite IS shielded by placing sources 
> in there and demonstrating the geiger counter readings). I had a few 
> articles on breast cancer risk to Nuclear Medicine techs and some of 
> the studies some of you mentioned. (Then they tell me last week that 
> they have never been trained. And argued that fact with me until I 
> showed them the sign in sheet and training packet and then they all of 
> a sudden
> remembered.)
> 
> They told me they wanted specific examples of if females in other 
> hospitals working with radiation got breast cancer. (Even though the 
> two female Nuclear Medicine techs have had no problems and have been 
> in the field for 24 years each). At that point I compared their 
> exposures to the Nuc Med techs.
> They said that they understood what I was telling them, but they were 
> still scared. (Then after the meeting they told the Nuclear tech that 
> my meeting with them did not help at all.)
> 
> One nurse said it is like if two people got run over by a car on the 
> same street and location. It is not the fact that the street is not 
> safe, but they would be scared to cross at the same location cause 
> they would probably get hurt at that location also.
> 
> So what they told me they wanted was specific examples from other 
> hospitals that less than 20% got breast cancer from working around 
> radiation and they might feel better about it. They wanted me to call 
> all the hospitals in town and get information on how many of the 
> female techs got breast cancer.
> 
> So any of you in hospitals have any female techs that got breast 
> cancer, or didn't? Any numbers out there?
> 
> Diane
> 
> _______________________________________________
> You are currently subscribed to the RadSafe mailing list
> 
> Before posting a message to RadSafe be sure to have read and 
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> visit: http://radlab.nl/radsafe/
> 


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-- John F. Kennedy 

-- John
John Jacobus, MS
Certified Health Physicist
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:08:30 -0400
From: 
Subject: [ RadSafe ] Williston-Elin
To: 
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We have a Williston-Elin irradiator in need of repair and support.
Does anyone know of a US company that will provide service support?
Does anyone have a copy of the complete technical manual for the unit?

Reno J. Fabii
Environmental Specialist II
Florida Dept. of Health
Bureau of Radiation Control
Phone: (407) 297-2096 Ext. 240
Fax: (407) 297-2085
reno_fabii at doh.state.fl.us



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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:15:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Jacobus 
Subject: [ RadSafe ] LAT Article: Florida pawnshop's radioactive
surprise ("Yellow cake")
To: radsafe , know_nukes at yahoogroups.com
Message-ID: <540143.12297.qm at web54315.mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1


http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-na-uranium12mar12,1,2145801.story?coll=la-news-a_section

Florida pawnshop's radioactive surprise

A small amount of yellowcake uranium is discovered
among rocks from an estate sale.

By Stephen Hudak
Orlando Sentinel

March 12, 2007

BELLEVIEW, FLA. — Every blue moon or so, collectibles
dealer and pawnshop owner Frank Cafaro stumbles upon a
buried gem among an estate's junk and tchotchkes.

His latest find was so alarming he called
firefighters.

"We were in the warehouse and we pulled out this box
of rocks from an estate sale," Cafaro said.
"Everything was individually labeled. Amethyst. Topaz.
Uranium. The guy I'm working with says, 'What's that
last one? Uranium? I think that's illegal.' "

Within an hour, Gold Mine Pawn was swarming last week
with about three dozen emergency workers, including
Geiger-counter-waving members of a hazardous materials
team and the Marion County Sheriff's Office domestic
security task force.

They focused on a container the size of a soup can.
Labeled with radioactive markings, the container
protected a vial that held about an ounce of
yellowcake uranium, a processed mineral that, in
larger quantities, could be used to make fuel for
nuclear reactors or enriched for weapons.

In 2003, President Bush justified the decision to
invade Iraq, in part, on a now-discredited
intelligence report that claimed former Iraqi
President Saddam Hussein had tried to buy tons of
yellowcake, presumably to manufacture weapons of mass
destruction.

"It was kind of scary when I heard how terrible this
stuff was," Cafaro said.

The mineral, which Cafaro traced to an estate sale in
Miami about 10 years ago, was turned over to the
Florida Department of Health for disposal.

Yellowcake, also known as uranium oxide, is far from
being a weapons-grade material, said Talat Rahman,
chairman of the physics department at the University
of Central Florida. She said it did not pose a serious
threat in small quantities.

"Yellowcake by itself is not dangerous," Rahman said.
"It has to be processed to be converted into something
dangerous."

Sharon Gogerty, a spokeswoman for the Florida
Department of Law Enforcement, said small amounts of
yellowcake were reported to the agency "on a regular
basis" and were not considered especially dangerous. 


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“We must face the fact that the United States is neither omnipotent or omniscient — that we are only 6 percent of the world’s population; that we cannot impose our will upon the other 94 percent of mankind; that we cannot right every wrong or reverse each adversity; and therefore there cannot be an American solution to every world problem.”
-- John F. Kennedy 

-- John
John Jacobus, MS
Certified Health Physicist
e-mail: crispy_bird at yahoo.com



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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:44:44 -0700
From: "Conklin, Al \(DOH\)" 
Subject: RE: [ RadSafe ] LAT Article: Florida pawnshop's radioactive
surprise("Yellow cake")
To: "John Jacobus" , "radsafe"
, 
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

It's a good thing they don't know what I've got buried around my office;
"deadly" red fiesta ware, several "nuclear" autonite crystals, about
three dozen "dangerous" lantern mantles, a "life threatening" radium
dial clock and a compass, a can of "horrifying" salt substitute. When I
go out to do training, and take along my props, I'm a walking nuclear
nightmare. I might even take a "hot" banana for my lunch.

-----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] On
Behalf Of John Jacobus
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 9:15 AM
To: radsafe; know_nukes at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ RadSafe ] LAT Article: Florida pawnshop's radioactive

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