[ RadSafe ] Re: NYC Bans Geiger counters!!!

[parthasarathy k s]

Friends,

Several decades ago, when orthovoltage ("Deep X-ray therapy) x-ray units were in use in India, we used to carry a thick circular lead sheet for blocking the x-ray beam to make measurements of leakage radiation, when on occasion the collimators attached to the x-ray head do not close fully!

The lead sheet used to caste a perfectly circular shadow on the x-ray screening units at the airport. We had to struggle hard to convince the security guards that we did not intend to do any harm. The guards got convinced easily as our baggage had the much respected address of my organization Bhabha Atomic Research Centre, Trombay

Regards
K.S.Parthasarathy

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From: "Geo>K0FF" <GEOelectronics at netscape.com>
To: "Vernig, Peter G." <Peter.Vernig at va.gov>; Mark Sonter <sontermj at tpg.com.au>; radsafe at radlab.nl
Sent: Wednesday, 30 January, 2008 8:49:43 PM
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Re: NYC Bans Geiger counters!!!

http://www.qsl.net/k0ff/Sierra%20Madre%20Occidental%20Field%20Trip%20Jan%202008/

I 
travel 
internationally 
all 
the 
time, 
last 
time 
was 
earlier 
this 
month. 
I 
always 
take 
along 
a 
scintillator-ratemeter 
to 
do 
impromptu 
Cosmic-Ray 
data 
gathering 
on 
the 
flight. 
As 
long 
as 
it 
is 
presented 
at 
security 
checkpoint 
and 
allowed 
to 
be 
X-Rayed, 
never 
a 
problem 
so 
far. 
Because 
of 
the 
recent 
"liquid" 
ban, 
leave 
the 
BTI 
Bubble 
Neutron 
Detectors 
in 
the 
checked 
luggage.

The 
fact 
that 
it 
might 
or 
might 
not 
be 
legal 
to 
own 
one 
in 
NYC 
is 
another 
matter. 
Perhaps 
they 
will 
also 
ban 
Spiderwort?
http://wildflowers.jdcc.edu/Blue%20Spiderwort.html

Just 
in 
case 
it 
is 
a 
good 
idea 
to 
carry 
a 
pre-postage-paid 
Priority 
Mail 
Envelope 
or 
box 
(in 
USA) 
so 
that 
if 
any 
item 
is 
refused 
on 
board, 
you 
can 
mail 
it 
to 
yourself 
instead 
of 
sacrificing 
it.

George 
Dowell
NLNL
New 
London 
Nucleonics 
Lab

----- 
Original 
Message 
----- 
From: 
"Vernig, 
Peter 
G." 
<Peter.Vernig at va.gov>
To: 
"Mark 
Sonter" 
<sontermj at tpg.com.au>; 
<radsafe at radlab.nl>
Sent: 
Wednesday, 
January 
30, 
2008 
8:49 
AM
Subject: 
RE: 
[ 
RadSafe 
] 
Re: 
NYC 
Bans 
Geiger 
counters!!!


Many 
moons 
ago, 
long 
before 
9/11 
I 
had 
to 
do 
an 
installation 
and 
fly
with 
an 
ion 
chamber.  
I 
also 
had 
a 
few 
hand 
tools, 
nothing 
exciting, 
no
box 
cutter.  
Pliers, 
crescent, 
wrench, 
screw 
drivers, 
that 
sort 
of
thing.  
I 
took 
I 
it 
in 
carry 
on 
so 
I 
could 
explain 
not 
wanting 
it 
to 
get
stopped 
and 
not 
put 
on 
the 
plane 
if 
it 
worried 
them.  
Security 
guy 
did
not 
even 
bat 
an 
eye 
at 
the 
ion 
chamber 
but 
was 
very 
concerned 
about 
the
tools.

Know 
what 
made 
him 
happy?  
A 
business 
card.

Now 
at 
that 
time 
I 
worked 
for 
Kevex 
Corporation, 
not 
exactly 
a 
household
name 
and 
of 
course 
anybody 
can 
order 
business 
cards.

Peter 
G 
Vernig

-----Original 
Message-----
From: 
radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl 
[mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] 
On
Behalf 
Of 
Mark 
Sonter
Sent: 
Tuesday, 
January 
29, 
2008 
11:13 
PM
To: 
radsafe at radlab.nl
Subject: 
[ 
RadSafe 
] 
Re: 
NYC 
Bans 
Geiger 
counters!!!

Ok 
-- 
in 
Oz, 
I 
go 
thru 
airport 
security, 
the 
guard 
says 
"what's 
that
showing 
up 
on 
the 
scanner?" 
and 
I 
say 
"I'm 
a 
uranium 
mine 
radiation
safety 
officer, 
it's 
a 
geiger 
counter", 
and 
the 
guard 
says 
"No 
Probs,
mate, 
have 
a 
good 
one" 
...

If 
I 
try 
that 
in 
NYC, 
the 
response 
is 
"Off 
to 
Jail 
with 
You, 
yer
obviously 
a 
Terrorist!"

Something 
Very 
Paranoid 
going 
on 
in 
the 
US 
of 
A....


Mark 
Sonter

Radiation 
Advice 
& 
Solutions 
Pty 
Ltd,  
 
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Enterprises 
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Ltd,  
 
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Phone 
/ 
fax  
(07) 
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"Keep 
everything 
as 
simple 
as 
possible, 
but 
no 
simpler"  
- 
Albert
Einstein


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