Re: [ RadSafe ] Man Pleads Guilty to “Dirty Bomb †Hoax

Gary Isenhower gisenhower at
Tue Mar 4 16:39:06 CST 2008

Hi Franz,

I don't think it is citizenship.  Rather, I think there is a subtle but
widespread US belief that Hitler (or his brain) is being kept alive
somewhere. Thus, there is a prejudice against senile Austrians.  Personally,
I deplore this kind of thing, but what else can you expect from Americans?

-Gary Isenhower

On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 11:07 AM, Franz Schönhofer <
franz.schoenhofer at> wrote:

> Clayton,
> As far as I remember I have already several times expressed my esteem for
> your opinions not conforming with the political "main stream". I see all
> those actions stunned which were documented on RADSAFE and were obviously
> severely scrutinized and even ridiculed by the RADSAFE community (radiation
> detectors at every corner in your country, mobile phones with automatic
> radiation detectors reporting automatically to some authority without the
> knowledge of the mobile phone owner..... Highly extended surveillance of
> public spaces. A few weeks ago a young man was murdered right behind the
> Viennese State Opera - the surveillance cameras could not yield a
> discernable picture of the suspect. So what?
> I am not going to discuss all the deprivation of privacy - there are
> better people to do that - but I just wonder, what would have happened if I
> - being a foreigner - would have expressed similar opinions like you on
> RADSAFE. The last "uprise" was, that several hardliners, who hardly
> contribute anything to the list, demanded my ban from the list - nothing
> new, I survived it several times. Though I have been probably the first to
> be put under surveillance by the listowner I never protested it, but
> accepted it.
> Still, what is your secret of not being flamed? US citizenship?
> Best regards,
> Franz
> Franz Schoenhofer, PhD
> MinRat i.R.
> Habicherg. 31/7
> A-1160 Wien/Vienna
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: radsafe-bounces at [mailto:radsafe-bounces at] Im
> Auftrag von Clayton J Bradt
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 04. März 2008 15:30
> An: Steven Dapra
> Cc: Clayton J Bradt; radsafe at
> Betreff: Re: [ RadSafe ] Man Pleads Guilty to “Dirty Bomb † Hoax
> DHS, NNSA, DOJ, congress and others have all  been pushing the RDD "denial
> of access" scenario for all its worth.  By insisting on tracking down
> every
> last ionizing event with hundreds (thousands?) of stationary and hand-held
> detectors, they distract public attention from the real dangers which
> governments have done practically nothing to address e.g. chemical plants,
> firearms, explosives.
> Clayton J. Bradt
>             Steven Dapra
>             <sjd at>
>                                                                        To
>             03/03/2008 09:44          Clayton J Bradt
>             PM                        <cjb01 at>,
>                                       radsafe at
>                                                                        cc
>                                                                   Subject
>                                       Re: [ RadSafe ] Man Pleads Guilty
>                                       to  “Dirty Bomb † Hoax
> March 3
> Clayton:
>        How do you figure "The US government have been the real
> perpetrators of this hoax."?   At present I am not disupting your
> suggestion, I merely would like to know what has caused you to draw that
> conclusion.
> Steven Dapra
> At 09:32 AM 3/3/08 -0500, Clayton J Bradt wrote:
>      Friday, February 29, 2008
>      Man Pleads Guilty to "Dirty Bomb" Hoax
>      A Wisconsin man could be sentenced to five years in prison after
>      pleading
>      guilty yesterday to claiming online that terrorists planned to use
>      radiological "dirty bombs" against seven National Football League
>      stadiums,
>      the Associated Press reported (see GSN, Oct. 23, 2006).
>      On about 40 occasions from September to October 2006, Jake Brahm
>      posted a
>      message on a Web site claiming that attacks were planned on Oct. 22
>      of that
>      year in Atlanta, Cleveland, Houston, Miami, New York, Oakland and
>      Seattle.
>      "The death toll will approach 100,000 from the initial blasts and
>      countless
>      other fatalities will later occur as [a] result from radioactive
>      fallout,"
>      the message stated.
>      A federal grand jury one year ago indicted the 22-year-old Wauwatosa
>      man
>      under the Patriot Act for willfully conveying false information
>      regarding
>      attacks on the stadiums involving weapons of mass destruction and
>      "radiological dispersal devices."
>      He is scheduled for sentencing in federal court in New Jersey on June
>      5.
>      Along with up to five years in prison, Brahm could be fined $250,000.
>      "This was the Internet version of yelling fire in a crowded theater,
>      but to
>      a much wider audience," U.S. Attorney Christopher Christie said in a
>      statement. "I don't think anyone needs to be reminded in this day how
>      serious and dangerous such conduct is."  (Jeffrey Gold, Associated
>      Press/USA
>      Today, Feb. 28).
>  *****************************************************************************
>      The US government have been the real perpetrators of this hoax.  This
>      guy
>      was dumb enough to believe it.  So was the jury, apparently.
>      Clayton J. Bradt
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