AW: [ RadSafe ] Man Pleads Guilty to “Dirty Bomb ” Hoax

Franz Schönhofer franz.schoenhofer at
Tue Mar 4 11:07:13 CST 2008


As far as I remember I have already several times expressed my esteem for your opinions not conforming with the political "main stream". I see all those actions stunned which were documented on RADSAFE and were obviously severely scrutinized and even ridiculed by the RADSAFE community (radiation detectors at every corner in your country, mobile phones with automatic radiation detectors reporting automatically to some authority without the knowledge of the mobile phone owner..... Highly extended surveillance of public spaces. A few weeks ago a young man was murdered right behind the Viennese State Opera - the surveillance cameras could not yield a discernable picture of the suspect. So what?

I am not going to discuss all the deprivation of privacy - there are better people to do that - but I just wonder, what would have happened if I - being a foreigner - would have expressed similar opinions like you on RADSAFE. The last "uprise" was, that several hardliners, who hardly contribute anything to the list, demanded my ban from the list - nothing new, I survived it several times. Though I have been probably the first to be put under surveillance by the listowner I never protested it, but accepted it.

Still, what is your secret of not being flamed? US citizenship?

Best regards,


Franz Schoenhofer, PhD
MinRat i.R.
Habicherg. 31/7
A-1160 Wien/Vienna

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: radsafe-bounces at [mailto:radsafe-bounces at] Im Auftrag von Clayton J Bradt
Gesendet: Dienstag, 04. März 2008 15:30
An: Steven Dapra
Cc: Clayton J Bradt; radsafe at
Betreff: Re: [ RadSafe ] Man Pleads Guilty to “Dirty Bomb ” Hoax

DHS, NNSA, DOJ, congress and others have all  been pushing the RDD "denial
of access" scenario for all its worth.  By insisting on tracking down every
last ionizing event with hundreds (thousands?) of stationary and hand-held
detectors, they distract public attention from the real dangers which
governments have done practically nothing to address e.g. chemical plants,
firearms, explosives.

Clayton J. Bradt

             Steven Dapra                                                  
             <sjd at>                                                
             03/03/2008 09:44          Clayton J Bradt                     
             PM                        <cjb01 at>,         
                                       radsafe at                   
                                       Re: [ RadSafe ] Man Pleads Guilty   
                                       to  “Dirty Bomb ” Hoax           

March 3


        How do you figure "The US government have been the real
perpetrators of this hoax."?   At present I am not disupting your
suggestion, I merely would like to know what has caused you to draw that

Steven Dapra

At 09:32 AM 3/3/08 -0500, Clayton J Bradt wrote:

      Friday, February 29, 2008

      Man Pleads Guilty to "Dirty Bomb" Hoax

      A Wisconsin man could be sentenced to five years in prison after
      guilty yesterday to claiming online that terrorists planned to use
      radiological "dirty bombs" against seven National Football League
      the Associated Press reported (see GSN, Oct. 23, 2006).

      On about 40 occasions from September to October 2006, Jake Brahm
      posted a
      message on a Web site claiming that attacks were planned on Oct. 22
      of that
      year in Atlanta, Cleveland, Houston, Miami, New York, Oakland and

      "The death toll will approach 100,000 from the initial blasts and
      other fatalities will later occur as [a] result from radioactive
      the message stated.

      A federal grand jury one year ago indicted the 22-year-old Wauwatosa
      under the Patriot Act for willfully conveying false information
      attacks on the stadiums involving weapons of mass destruction and
      "radiological dispersal devices."

      He is scheduled for sentencing in federal court in New Jersey on June
      Along with up to five years in prison, Brahm could be fined $250,000.

      "This was the Internet version of yelling fire in a crowded theater,
      but to
      a much wider audience," U.S. Attorney Christopher Christie said in a
      statement. "I don't think anyone needs to be reminded in this day how
      serious and dangerous such conduct is."  (Jeffrey Gold, Associated
      Today, Feb. 28).

      The US government have been the real perpetrators of this hoax.  This
      was dumb enough to believe it.  So was the jury, apparently.

      Clayton J. Bradt

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