[ RadSafe ] Re: radiation and heart disease link - prevention!

[John Jacobus]

Dr. Long,
  I am not the one who originally questioned this study.  The fact that the unexposed workers had a higher cancer rate than the general population brings into question the validity of the study beyond the intent.  I can, and have, provided you with copies of the analysis of the study.  Unfortunately, your beliefs do not change the facts that this is not a reliable reference.  
   
  The fact that the workers "appear" to be healthier does not translate into lower risk of heart disease.  As a physician, I assume that you know that heart disease is not the only cause of death.  Your conjecture that the study " MUST have included reduction in heart disease" is clearly without proof or merit beyond your own spectulation.  
   
  Dr. Cameron was a well recognized physicist who gave much to the medical physics community.  Nevertheless, he was no epidemiologist.
   
  Again, if you wish to continue this discussion with me, please do so off-list.  We need to respect the wishes of those who do not what to again be bothered with this issue.
  
-- John
  
howard long <hflong at pacbell.net> wrote:
          John,
  Your persistent denigration of Cameron's work 
  does require correction to all Radsafe.
   
  NSWS revelation of amazing reduction in total mortality
   (0.76 expected vs controls that eliminated healthy worker effect)
  when  >0.5 rem accumulated addition, MUST have included 
  reduction in heart disease (over 30% of total mortality).
   
  This small addition of 0.5 rem (rad, cSv etc) is less than 
  a whole body scan and about what I get from 
  sitting on thoriated welding rods 3 hours a day, and
  even more convenient than my sunbathing an hour a week 
  for another healthful radiation supplement. 
   
  I have a cc of Cameron's analysis for all who e-mail for it.
   There was no more healthy worker effect than in the controls.
   
  Thank you for keeping HPs aware.
   
  Howard Long

  ----- Original Message ----
From: John Jacobus <crispy_bird at yahoo.com>
To: howard long <hflong at pacbell.net>; John R Johnson <idias at interchange.ubc.ca>; Fred Dawson <fred-dawson at blueyonder.co.uk>; srp-uk at yahoogroups.com
Cc: radsafe at radlab.nl
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 9:42:22 AM
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Scientists discover possible radiation and heart disease link

  Dr. Long,
  Sorry to take so much time getting back to you and your conjecture, but the NSWS did NOT report on heart disease.  Also, you are again citing a epidemiological study has been judged as being flawed.  If you need to cherry-pick data, you should at least use a credible study.
   
  That being said, please reply to me off list if you wish to continue this discussion. 

howard long <hflong at pacbell.net> wrote:
  Opposite - less CV mortality with more radiation - must be true in the NShipyardWS 
with just 0.76 total mortality rate in those with > extra 0.5 rem vs workers otherwise identical,
as published by Cameron.

Howard Long

----- Original Message ----
From: John R Johnson 
To: Fred Dawson ; srp-uk at yahoogroups.com
Cc: radsafe at radlab.nl
Sent: Wednesday, March 5, 2008 10:39:38 AM
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Scientists discover possible radiation and heart disease link

Fred

There is a link between radiation and cardiovascular disease. See Darby et 
al (BMJ Vol. 326, pp256-257, 2003) and our poster at the IRPA-11 meeting.

John
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