[ RadSafe ] Re: radiation and heart disease link - prevention!

[John R Johnson]

Howard

I don't understand you. 

What has "sitting on thoriated welding rods 3 hours a day" and "sunbathing an hour a week" have to do with health physics or radiation protect?

John
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John R Johnson, PhD
CEO, IDIAS, Inc.
4535 West 9th Ave
Vancouver, B. C.
V6R 2E2, Canada
idias at interchange.ubc.ca



Original Message ----- 
  From: howard long 
  To: John Jacobus ; John R Johnson ; Fred Dawson ; srp-uk at yahoogroups.com 
  Cc: radsafe at radlab.nl 
  Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 2:40 PM
  Subject: radiation and heart disease link - prevention!


  John,

  Your persistent denigration of Cameron's work 

  does require correction to all Radsafe.



  NSWS revelation of amazing reduction in total mortality

   (0.76 expected vs controls that eliminated healthy worker effect)

  when  >0.5 rem accumulated addition, MUST have included 
  reduction in heart disease (over 30% of total mortality).

  This small addition of 0.5 rem (rad, cSv etc) is less than 
  a whole body scan and about what I get from 
  sitting on thoriated welding rods 3 hours a day, and
  even more convenient than my sunbathing an hour a week 
  for another healthful radiation supplement. 

  I have a cc of Cameron's analysis for all who e-mail for it.
   There was no more healthy worker effect than in the controls.

  Thank you for keeping HPs aware.

  Howard Long

  ----- Original Message ----
  From: John Jacobus <crispy_bird at yahoo.com>
  To: howard long <hflong at pacbell.net>; John R Johnson <idias at interchange.ubc.ca>; Fred Dawson <fred-dawson at blueyonder.co.uk>; srp-uk at yahoogroups.com
  Cc: radsafe at radlab.nl
  Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 9:42:22 AM
  Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Scientists discover possible radiation and heart disease link


  Dr. Long,
  Sorry to take so much time getting back to you and your conjecture, but the NSWS did NOT report on heart disease.  Also, you are again citing a epidemiological study has been judged as being flawed.  If you need to cherry-pick data, you should at least use a credible study.

  That being said, please reply to me off list if you wish to continue this discussion. 

  howard long <hflong at pacbell.net> wrote:
    Opposite - less CV mortality with more radiation - must be true in the NShipyardWS 
    with just 0.76 total mortality rate in those with > extra 0.5 rem vs workers otherwise identical,
    as published by Cameron.

    Howard Long

    ----- Original Message ----
    From: John R Johnson 
    To: Fred Dawson ; srp-uk at yahoogroups.com
    Cc: radsafe at radlab.nl
    Sent: Wednesday, March 5, 2008 10:39:38 AM
    Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Scientists discover possible radiation and heart disease link

    Fred

    There is a link between radiation and cardiovascular disease. See Darby et 
    al (BMJ Vol. 326, pp256-257, 2003) and our poster at the IRPA-11 meeting.

    John
    ***************
    John R Johnson, PhD
    CEO, IDIAS, Inc.
    4535 West 9th Ave
    604-676-3556
    Vancouver, B. C.
    V6R 2E2, Canada
    idias at interchange.ubc.ca