[ RadSafe ] NET iquette

Mon Aug 9 08:11:17 CDT 2010

The whole deal about identifying oneself is not related to competency or credential, it is really linked to the etiquette or lack of it on certain discussion servers. Some employers does not even allow participation to such list for evident publicity or image reasons, as employees may get carried away. That being said, it is easy to get carried away if you don't properly identify yourself. Having an email is not a proper identification.

Now, about emails, it may simply be noted that a gmail, hotmail or live.com adresses carry less weight then a US.org, a DOD or a IAEA address. The latest may be CNN or FoxNews material so Radsafers from key organizations are simply careful in what they write, this is a very good side effect of proper identification or credential. 

But no matter the address, if the content is in link with radiation safety, health physics and even political issues around these topics, I, personnaly, am glad to read and many time, learn from the posting.  I will simply use caution or use my delete button, if the signature is only Joe, or the address is ''antiNuke334'' ... Everyone on this list have a delete button, I am sure. You can even use a program to systematically delete senders....

My opinion only.

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De : radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] De la part de parthasarathy k s
Envoyé : 8 août 2010 22:12
À : Perle, Sandy; Franz Schönhofer; Joseph Alvarez; Radsafe
Objet : Re: [ RadSafe ] U.S. Inks Nuclear Reprocessing Deal With India thissubject was not covered in most of the messages!

All radsafers,

Last nine messages did not deal with "US inks Nuclear Reprocessing Deal with 
India", the "Subject" of the messages. The message is more important than who 
wrote it. After a few messages in the list you tend to realize who is likely to 
contribute! No offence meant!

 I carefully looked for some views of the list members on the US-India deal.This 
is particularly because of my India connection and also because I knew closely 
the early developments which led to the Indo-US civil nuclear cooperation 
agreement. The article I wrote for the Press Trust of India gives an idea  about 
some of these developments;

http://ksparth.blogspot.com/2007/04/india-us-nuclear-issue_764.html

K.S.Parthasarathy
(Formerly Secretary, Atomic Energy Regulatory Board)
Raja Ramanna Fellow

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From: "Perle, Sandy" <SPerle at mirion.com>
To: Franz Schönhofer <franz.schoenhofer at chello.at>; Joseph Alvarez 
<jalvabeta at gmail.com>; Radsafe <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
Sent: Mon, 9 August, 2010 6:26:46
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] U.S. Inks Nuclear Reprocessing Deal With India

I've known Joe Alvarez for many years and he is extremely technically competent 
and his opinions and comments are appropriate for consideration here on Radsafe 
as well as any other forum he posts to. Joe was also on the Health Physics 
Society Board of Directors and was my liaison to the Board as I was the Chair, 
Health Physics Standards Committee (which I am still Chair going into my 3rd 
three year term). Joe did note that his affiliation was included in his E-Mail 
posting, and even if it were not, I agree with Jeff that with the many personal 
smart phones used for responding to posts, it is not always convenient to 
include one's entire signature information. When I respond or post from my 
smartphone, just my name is included. Where possible, one's affiliation is of 
interest, but it's the comments that count and not necessarily the affiliation 
that is important. Having just had surgery for a detached retina three days ago, 
and I'm typing with one eye closed, I'll stop my comments here, before I 
aggravate the condition even more.

Regards,

Sandy
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On Aug 8, 2010, at 2:38 PM, Franz Schönhofer wrote:

> You are kidding - I am polite, not using some other probably more
> Appropriate expressions. An email address is no identification -how should
> it, since it can be chosen freely? Though being not at all a professional at
> the Internet I recognize that it is you, who has no idea about it.
>
>
>
> I need not grow up, I am old enough. I fully support young scientists
> whenever I can,  but maybe you should shed the eggshells from your head
> (literallily translated from German).
>
>
>
> RADSAFE does not need such wannabes and trolls, you should leave RADSAFE at
> once unless you can provide something substantial.
>
>
>
> Franz Schoenhofer, PhD
>
> MinRat i.R.
>
> Habicherg. 31/7
>
> A-1160 Wien/Vienna
>
> AUSTRIA
>
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Joseph Alvarez [mailto:jalvabeta at gmail.com]
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 08. August 2010 22:47
> An: Franz Schönhofer
> Cc: Clayton J Bradt; radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu
> Betreff: Re: [ RadSafe ] U.S. Inks Nuclear Reprocessing Deal With India
>
>
>
> Please note. I did identify myself and affiliation. How else were you able
> to reply? To claim otherwise is another example of your lack of
> professionalism. Please grow up.
>

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