[ RadSafe ] "Countdown to Zero" disarmament movie

Jaro Franta jaro-10kbq at sympatico.ca
Sun Aug 15 16:59:34 CDT 2010

Thanks for the common sense Gary -- much appreciated !

PS. You might have added something about why operation ALSOS & related were
important, several decades ago.....



U.S. Can't Ignore Iran's Genocidal Incitement
Irwin Cotler (Atlanta Journal Constitution)
The enduring lesson of the Holocaust and that of the genocides that followed
is that they occurred not simply because of the machinery of death, but
because of state-sanctioned incitement to hatred. As international tribunals
have recognized, the Holocaust did not begin in the gas chambers; it began
with words. Ahmadinejad's Iran is increasingly resorting to incendiary and
demonizing language, including metaphors reminiscent of Nazi and Rwandan
provocation. As minister of justice in Canada and involved in the
prosecution of Rwandan incitement, I believe the precursors of provocation
in Iran are more threatening than were those in Rwanda.
President Barack Obama has made the important connection between Iran as the
world's leading state sponsor of terrorism, Iran as an inciter of hate and
genocide against Israel, and Iran as an illegally developing nuclear power.
As a state party to the Genocide Convention, the U.S. has not only the
option but the obligation to take action to prevent genocide. A careful
review of the evidence recently led a group of over 40 eminent international
jurists, including former UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Louise
Arbour, to conclude that Iran should be held to account for its hateful
incitement to genocide, as prohibited under international law.
Diplomacy targeted solely at Iran's nuclear threat mistakenly ignores the
terrifying and vilifying context in which that threat operates and,
inadvertently, sanitizes the provocation to genocide. When Obama engages
Iran directly, it is crucial that the illegal incitement to genocide so
pervasive in Ahmadinejad's Iran not be swept under the rug. 


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Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] "Countdown to Zero" disarmament movie

Not everyone who wants a weapon ought to have one.  That is clear no matter
how you look 
at it - morally, legally, practically, or whatever.  Of all the states
involved in the Middle East, 
one has publicly and repeatedly promised that another will be "wiped out
from the map."  One 
has for decades actively supported terrorist groups.  That's not a huge
recommendation for 
possessing the most powerful weapons on the planet.

This is not a complicated issue, and there is only one view that counts: do
you like breathing 
or are you willing to give that up permanently?  When some person says they
want to kill you, 
and they are actively reaching for a gun (in fact, a bigger gun since in
this case they are 
already working overtime to kill you with the weapons they already have),
then you need a 
good plan for staying alive.  Doing nothing just doesn't sound like a good
plan to me.

-Gary Isenhower

On 15 Aug 2010 at 13:44, Demetrios Okkalides wrote:

My remark referred to a reality not to a moral view. That is why, as much as
I would hate to see an Iran with a nuclear weapon which could threaten
Europe, I still see their point of view. It is this principle of nuclear
deterrence that drives them since now they feel vulnerable against Israel or
the US. If things come to that, they know that they can not deter a possible
nuclear attack.

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