[ RadSafe ] End Of An Era

neildm at id.doe.gov neildm at id.doe.gov
Mon Jun 14 10:10:46 CDT 2010

Gentlemen - 

Let's not start flaming; you are both equally right - and equally wrong.
Most of us can't even keep track of all the acronyms at our own
facilities, much less worldwide.

This has been used to good effect in places.  I recall a speculative
fiction novel which uses it to slip in a subtle joke. Glossing over
detail, it concerned two planets which ultimately nuke each other back -
not to the Stone Age - but to the Cambrian.  The god of one culture was
named Vran, which is about as close as you can get in English to the
Russian acronym equivalent to MAD - Mutually Assured Destruction. 

Dave Neil

-----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at agni.phys.iit.edu
[mailto:radsafe-bounces at agni.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Michael
LaFontaine, P. Phys.
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 5:47 PM
To: franz.schoenhofer at chello.at; Jeff Terry
Cc: Radsafe
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] End Of An Era

Dear Franz,

I respect your physics opinions, but cannot come to terms with your
penchant for denigrating the United States. I'm not sure what your
metric is for  this current missive. Contrary to what you believe, the
US is 3rd in overall land area at 9.6 million km^2 (just behind Canada
and Russia), this is more than double the EU's combined land area of 4.3
million km^2 (most of the EU could fit into the six largest US states
with room to spare). Population wise, the 300+ million of the US
compares quite favourably with the combined 500 million of the combined
EU, and vastly outnumbers the population of any individual EU country.

Like it or not, the US, despite the global recession, is still one of
the economic power-houses of the world; and remains the only super-power
in more than the military sense of the term.


Michael LaFontaine, P.Phys.

At 09:24 PM 13/06/2010 +0200, franz.schoenhofer at chello.at wrote:
>Thank you Terry to give me the explanation and parallel the enlightment

>that Wikipedia which anyway has to be used very sceptical is very 
>different in different languages. This explains why I did not find CP-5

>by my search in the German version. The only explanation - shocking for

>some US hardliners like Mr. Koff - is that in the "rest of the world" 
>this seems to be of no real importance. Sorry Mr. Koff (he sent a 
>message to me personally, which was intended to insult me) but the
"rest of the world"
>outside the USA has not the obligation of knowing any abbreviation in 
>whatever country of this world, including the USA with its minor 
>contribution to population and surface area. Mr Koff, you still do not 
>The more important reason I contact you directly, Terry, is that  
>during the last few days at least two of my messages have been 
>distributed, but with the label, that they might be SPAM. They were not

>rejected. Could you please check this?
> From my own experience of the South West I can tell you that your wish

> to experience temperatures exceeding 100 F will be met without any 
> doubt! On many days you will long for the "cool" 100F! Anyway I envy 
> you to go to NM, I have been there last time in October two years ago.

> I also envy you for the possibility to meet Dan, because I have not 
> managed to meet him yet and he seems to be one of the really 
> knowledgable people in many different fields.
>With my best regards and wishes
>--- Jeff Terry <terryj at iit.edu> schrieb:
> > Hi Franz,
> >
> > CP-5 is Chicago Pile-5:
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Pile_5
> >
> > It was the first reactor built on the Argonne East (Lemont IL) site.
> >
> > The naming convention started with CP-1, the first man-made nuclear 
> > reactor built on the campus of the University of Chicago.
> >
> > 40 C is very nice. I hope to see it when I go to New Mexico in a few

> > weeks.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > Jeff Terry
> > Asst. Professor of Physics
> > Life Science Bldg Rm 166
> > Illinois Institute of Technology
> > 3101 S. Dearborn St.
> > Chicago IL 60616
> > 630-252-9708
> > terryj at iit.edu
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jun 7, 2010, at 4:41 PM, franz.schoenhofer at chello.at wrote:
> >
> > > ---- Jeff Terry <terryj at iit.edu> schrieb:
> > >> Good bye CP-5. Sorry, all I had was a cell phone camera.
> > >>
> > >> Jeff
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Jeff,
> > >
> > > Please excuse my obvious ignorance - What is CP-5? Since I very 
> > > often recommend to persons seeking information on RADSAFE to 
> > > consult first Google I tried it myself. - no satisfying result, no

> > > one linked to "reactors" or "radioactivity". Could you please 
> > > enlighten those Europeans, Asians, Africans, Australians who dwell

> > > unknowingly in the shadow of the great USA? You cannot  seriously

> > > expect that everbody on RADSAFE knows what CP-5 is.
> > >
> > > Best regards from +40 degree Celsius (+100 Farenheit) in Sevilla, 
> > > Spain!
> > >
> > > Franz
> >
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