[ RadSafe ] Airport Body Scanners

Mon Mar 8 15:40:04 CST 2010

Dear Gary,

I know since some time your attitude to brand me as the ultimate
"anti-American" on the list. First of all I do not have any objections to
American countries like Brazil, Mexico, Peru, Canada, Uruguay, Chile,
Argentine, Paraguay, Belize, and many more... You should not use "America",
when you write about the United States of America, they are by far not
"America" but only a small part of it. Have you ever tried to compare the
surface if the USA to the surface of the whole world? Have you ever compared
the population of the USA to the world population? Maybe you have compared
the "defense" ("war") budgets? Indeed this might be an argument for you.

Related to your post: Be sure there is security at our airports, as far as I
know not yet to the ridiculous extent as for body scanners. I'll fly out of
Vienna next Friday, then I will know more. I do not think that the European
Union should accept any silly and exeggerated demand of the USA. All the
recent demands of the USA to the European Union are without the slightest
doubt related to a complete control of European Finances and decisions. 
Best regards to you and your country!

Franz

Franz Schoenhofer, PhD
MinRat i.R.
Habicherg. 31/7
A-1160 Wien/Vienna
AUSTRIA

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
[mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] Im Auftrag von
garyi at trinityphysics.com
Gesendet: Montag, 08. März 2010 19:25
An: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu
Betreff: Re: [ RadSafe ] Airport Body Scanners

Dear Franz,

Unless Austrian airports have no security at all, then your objection is a
matter of degree and 
not of kind.  Any scrutiny of passengers and luggage is an intrusion of
privacy and an injury to 
human dignity, regardless of how much technology is used in that scrutiny.
In America, we 
do what any sensible country does with respect to national security.  We
just try to be 
innovative and efficient about it.  Really, if you would rather have the
strip search instead of 
the scan, just ask.

Your post is one more in a long line of thinly veiled hate-filled rants
against the US.  You can 
stop pretending not to hate America - we all know how you feel!  You tell us
so often its 
impossible to miss.  Don't worry, this is indeed the Land of the Free, and
you are free to 
continue the "hate speech".  Only a few countries are so casual about hate
speech though, 
so be careful what you say if you live outside the US.

-Gary Isenhower, CHL ("Certified Hard Liner")

On 7 Mar 2010 at 20:49, Franz Schönhofer wrote:

RADSAFERs,

I want to add for clarification, that I am by far not afraid of any
radiation exposure (why should I!), but I oppose the trend to cut down the
privacy of people by forcing them to parade "naked" in front of some
whatever persons and however these pictures deleted later on. This is
against any human dignity.

What I understand least of all, is that this humiliating concept originated
from the USA - the "land of the free", the land claiming to be a spearhead
to indiviudual rights. Come on, don't tell me about "bla, bla, bla". It is a
political concept, it is discrimination of foreigners. Having been dozens of
times in the USA I do not really plan to visit the USA again within the next
few years. I have the feeling that I am not welcome unless I can prove that
I am not a Taliban or any other islamic organisation etc. I suppose that
after sending this message I am registered in the USA because of using
"Taliban".  

Every scientist is welcome to Austria by me and the other authorities
without having to parade at a naked-scanner at the Vienna Airport. I cannot
pay any costs for visiting!

Seriously: I had several participants of RADSAFE already as guests in Vienna
and I think we mutually enjoyed the guided VIP tour I provided. I encourage
everybody to contact me for a visit, though I am most of the time not in
Vienna.

Franz Schoenhofer, PhD
MinRat i.R.
Habicherg. 31/7
A-1160 Wien/Vienna
AUSTRIA

RADSAFErs

Please help me to understand, why we have at RADSAFE to deal with all kind
of nonsensical pseudo-radiation protectional rubbish. 

Howard, I would recommend that you keep to your profession of (as far as I
understand) family doctor. 

Franz Schoenhofer, PhD
MinRat i.R.
Habicherg. 31/7
A-1160 Wien/Vienna
AUSTRIA

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
[mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] Im Auftrag von
HOWARD.LONG at comcast.net
Gesendet: Sonntag, 07. März 2010 18:45
An: Ed Hiserodt
Cc: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu
Betreff: Re: [ RadSafe ] Airport Body Scanners

"UNDEREXPOSED  -  What if Radiation Is Actually GOOD for You", 

Ed Hiserodt's paperback, is on my waiting room table, and well-thumbed. 

The Prologue is riveting (in brief):   

             " Radiation can be dangerous. 

             So can ignorance.   

X-rays for wrist fracture scared a woman into having an abortion, 

to prevent the 'likelihood of a deformed child' [ignorant of 

200 FEWER deformities in Taiwan apts where 4cSv over 10years 

Chen, Luan, J Am Phys & Surg 13/1/Spring '08]. 

A health physicist estimated the increased radiation as less 

than from a coast to coast flight. - 

I wonder what my niece or nephew would have been like" 

Publicize your engineering analysis, Ed! 

Howard Long, family doctor  

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ed Hiserodt" <hise at sbcglobal.net> 
To: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu 
Sent: Sunday, March 7, 2010 8:36:26 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: [ RadSafe ] Airport Body Scanners 

I recently received this email from a friend who thinks that I know 
something about radiation since I wrote a book on the beneficial effects of 
LLR.  Hey, when did writing on a subject and having any knowledge of it 
become synonymous?   (Remember Al Gore?)  Anyway here is his question.  Any 
comments on it would be appreciated. 

"Regarding the virtual strip-search machines that will be appearing at 
airports across the country, how much radiation do they actually release and

how does this compare to the radiation we are normally exposed to anyway? 
How dangerous are these machines, if at all, for someone who does a lot of 
flying?  I understand that there are two technologies the TSA uses to peer 
through clothing: 

"One uses millimeter waves - does this involve any radiation; is it 
completely safe? 

"The other is the backscatter X-ray." 

Ed Hiserodt 

Maumelle, AR 

501 258 2571 

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